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First Tren Cycle Advice


#1

I’m looking to run my first Tren cycle and would like some advice on my gear. Here’s what I’m planning:

CYCLE:
WK 1-8: 45MG TrenA ED (315MG weekly)
WK 1-8: 25MG TestP ED (175MG weekly)
WK 1-8: .25MG Cabergoline (Dostinex) 2x WK
WK 1-8: .5MG Arimidex EOD (ONLY if needed)

HCG:
WK 1-6: 250IUs HCG 2x WK
WK 7: 750IUs HCG ED for last 3 days
WK 7: .25MG Arimidex on day 4

PCT:
WK 9-13: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/10
WK 9 on Supplements: Testojack 200, D-Aspartic Acid, DHEA, Indole 3 Carbinol, Resveratrol, ZMA

Here’s some random thoughts on how I arrived at this plan:

  • I chose Tren mainly because of its reputation for promoting lean mass gains
  • The Tren dosage is relatively low which fits well with my inexperience (but should still give good results)
  • I’m using TrenA due to potential unknown sides with me since its HL is short
  • I’m going to run with ED pins to keep blood levels smooth
  • The TestP dosage seems to be all that’s needed with Tren and should help keep sides low
  • I’m using Caber to address the Prolactin issue with Tren (and keep my libido up during cycle)
  • I’m going to keep some Arimidex on hand but I’m not expecting to need it during cycle with the lower Test dosage
  • I’m using HCG to prevent testicular atrophy and keep natural Test production going
  • The .25MG Arimidex on WK 7, day 4 of HCG is to minimize estrogen due to the extra HCG shock

I feel pretty confident about the TrenA & TestP dosages and the Caber usage. I’m a little less confident in the HCG protocol and PCT. Any advice on any of the above is certainly appreciated!

As for me, I’m early 50s, 5’7", 170lbs, around 14%BF. Very experienced in the gym but fairly new to AAS, only running a couple of Sustanon cycles so far. My goals are primarily improved body composition with the addition of some lean mass also very desirable. Reducing sides and of course minimizing any potential negative long term effects is also very important to me.


#2

In all likelihood you won’t need the caber. At the very least you should refrain from taking it unless you actually need it. Take the adex twice a week.

Otherwise you look ready to go.


#3

Sorry, I failed to address your HCG question. I would just run it evenly throughout the cycle. You don’t have to get too fancy with the dosing protocol, just run it at 500/wk. If it’s working at that dose (and it should) you don’t need to blast extra towards the tail end of your cycle. You don’t have to overcomplicate things.


#4

Thanks, I felt like the cycle portion was fairly solid for a first pass on Tren. I’ll take your advice on the Caber. I definitely want to keep it on hand in case of sexual side effects (8 weeks is a long time, lol) but I’ll probably just use it as needed.

As far as the HCG goes, that sounds good too. Have you (or others) done similar cycles both with and without HCG? How’s it worked in practice?