Hello guys, this is my first time steping out into the formus scene… Well my names jayden and im a 22yr old male with a few years of proper weight training and diet and excersise under my belt…
I work at 24 Hour fitness so I have taken in as much wisdom as i can about everything that deals with the MALE and the quality of life aka weights sex drive education etc…
Ill get straight to the point here… After going through maybe 3 endos and being diagnosed with a so called prolactima which was supposely suppresing everything else I decided to come off the cabergoline and try to find another doctor because I was feeling quite miserable and pretty crappy lol although the cialis i recieved from a urologist was indeed nice lol…
THE PRETREATMENT was
prolactin was 37 (2.0-18.0) and T was 400 (300-1500) at the time and Cortisol was like 60( 4.0-50) TSH was high 4.8 and estradiol was 42 (20-56) T4 and T3 was normal i believe… I was perscribed .5 cabergoline a week and months later the lab work showed that the prolactin went down to 0…
Well I got lazy and irresonsible with school and what not stop taking the cabergoline on time and eventually the doc refuesued to fill the script and i never went back in to check T levels… I wouldnt say i felt great at the time but i did feel a difference at least psychologically…
7 Months later i decided to try again and find a credible endo well i did, i explained my past case to hime and i took blood test to see where i was now… Suprisingly PROLACTIN was only 11 and T was 340 same scales… WEll he didnt want to start any hrt and being that it droped from 460 he wanted to measure the RATE of the proclatin " TUMOR" and told me to do blood work for TEST AND PROLATICN in 2 and half months and schedule our appointment in 3…
oh and he said if i felt like crap and i couldnt wait for our next appointment in 3 months that i could come in a month earlier… Well i called a month later and left his nurse a voice mail that expressed my frusterations. HE replyed with " your mood is a reflection of whats going in your life jayden" I laughed as i realized that my life is pretty nice and i am very content with my job gf and family so i came to believe he wasnt wanting to help much…
Well I waited and i did what he said came back 2 months later…
THE NEW TEST:
T was 240!!!
PROCLATIN 13:
So he told me we had to do TRT didnt explain much said estrogen and cortisol was fine when all we checked for was prolactin and test lol so he lied. gave me 5g of androgel for 3 months then said come back in 90 days oh and he said nothing about an AI or serumso or to call back if i have concerns…
at this point i really wanted to give up but in some weird way i was really excited to get this script… To speed things up I researched here and you guys have given me a breath of relaxtion and tons of stress relief with all this info and experiences thanks…
So a week later my gf and i did some thinking and i went back to my old original endo to get a 2nd opinion he never really did anything unprofessional but try to find every problem possibly that was causing low T before issuing hrt even did an MRI…
he even sugggested sleep apnea test before the HRT well i took the ANDROGEL 5g script to him showed him all my recent blood work and talked to him discussing the best methods and he told me to stick with one endo just so there isnt diff opinions…
He told me that he has a few ppl on HRT and they start out with gels and that its pretty much the partients preference of what route to take… SO HERE WE ARE finally I unloaded all the ?S to him… About why the other doc did issue an AI? is it normal to do an AI with 5g of trasdermal? Will taking 2.5/5/7.5/10g show more success??
I told him that i wanted to stick with the gel and based off user experience and info that i watned to use a tube and half which would be 2.5g more then the original script that the old doc who issued it which is now 7.5 g total…
He said that was legit because the injections are usually given 100mg a week and 10g is the highest you can apply with androgel a day so that would put you in the upper middle of things doing 7.5 G a day… He told me that it wasnt necessary to take an AI with this or usually its not given until it arises lol so much for preventing things lol SO the question is
IF I TAKE ARIMIDEX and dont tell the doctor yet? .25 every 3 days and my estrodiol is 42 and im taking 7.5g of androgel daily my test levels will be pretty high i assume? but if and when i get off the arimidex because im assuming its very pricey and theres side effects with using it long term? or do i go on and off it to?
also will taking arimidex cause him to lower my 7.5g because he thinks its just the androgel working and doesnt know about the ana ( HONESTLY WORKS BEST SOMETIMES I GUESS lol? THE FACT IS i can obtain it from a friend but is it worth taking and hiding from the doc? and if worse case comes and T levels do rise nicely and he degrades me to 5g daily do i count on the arimidex to keep the 5g legit??
if get off arimidex will the E level rise again and rebound back even worse??? BTW I only have 5g packs i am planning on using a pack and a half and sealing the rest for teh next day??? will the air or heat with the tube thing closed and sealed kill the half thing of androgel left daily???
GUYS I AM SORRY THIS IS SO CONFUSING AND LONG ITS 1 am and I have androgel siting here on my desk and i want to start tomorrow morning so bad my quality of life is right here but i just am so frusterated with all these diff suggestions and opinions…
My gut instinct tells me to take low Arimidex with the androgel pack and half unless the air kills it or something then i would have to do just 5g/ and in a month and half go back to my original doctor the one who said it was ok to just keep the equip i have schedule with him soon and to go ahead and try 7.5g and tell him i couldnt help but to take the precaution and do low dose of arimidex???
I can even say how much your opions mean to me… I hope this road to recovery starts soon… Thanks Jayden
btw i will be checking this daily and any feedback is much appreciated