I am new to the site and I was wondering if yall can assist me with putting together my first complete cycle. I say complete because I did a cycle of winny several years ago, seen great results, but I did not do it right. Like taking protein, coming off of it correct and I did not have any post cycle support. I would like to use it for cutting and slight mass gains.[/quote]
What is like Protein? You dont PCT or ‘come off’ protein! lol[quote]
Since then I have moved to another state and my Ã?Â¢??teamÃ?Â¢?? from college has all lost contact. So therefore I donÃ?Â¢??t know anyone who can tell me where to go to order nor can/do I trust anyone to ask as I am in the military and donÃ?Â¢??t want any flags thrown for obvious reasons.
I am 25 165# 10% BF. I have been training for about 5-6 years now and my work ethic in the gym is great. I would like to lose some this fat so I can run faster at a great distance lets say a minimum of two miles in 14-15 min and a max five miles at 40-45mins. I believe once I lose some this extra body weight it will be easier. I am currently lifting and doing sprints, but my W/O routine is for another post. I am trying to get some assistance for a cycle. [/quote]
I really hope you are under 5’7". Training to achieve that for someone of your weight, BF and profession, it should NOT be issue. 2 miles in that time is really achievable for anyone of reasonable fitness.
And you want to lose bodyweight? WHAT bodyweight? You are 160lbs dripping wet boy, with 10% bodyfat…! I wonder if you are 10% or if you THINK that’s what you are? It is common for people to estimate it with no experience of doing this and get it unbelievably wrong. Not unlike estimating caloric intake.[quote]
I would like to take anavar or some winny; but I am not sure yet. The other issue I have is I was actually considering us PH, but as I have been reading on here some of you donÃ?Â¢??t agree with PH. One person even said why spend that money on PH when you buy the real stuff. That got me to thinking; they had a point. Which brings me to my second point; I donÃ?Â¢??t know which PH to take, cycle/stack with or w/o and I donÃ?Â¢??t what I should take after the cycle is complete. I want to do this correct this is why I am posting to get some real feedback.[/quote]
Why Var or Winstrol? i assume because they are ‘cutting’ drugs? They are only cutting drugs due to the fact they wont hold extra water on your body, and as such when you diet down to a very low bodyfat level (as bodybuilders do…) then this fact coupled with the androgen activity, a hard, dry and defined look CAN be achieved if you have done the correct work to achieve this.
This is not the kind of condition i would suggest being in when serving - unless it is how you are naturally (many guys BF is stable at ~6%). you wont be able to keep up the diet and you will also be weak and tired (<6%).
10% is plenty low enough for any man who is not in competition for physique judging conpetition IMO and with some muscle looks good with very little ‘dead’ weight to carry.
Var and Winny will put very little muscle on you - not to mention not being anabolic enough alone to support a cutting diet IF you were intending on doing so.
Are you adverse to injecting or is it impossible in your situation?[quote]
In summary I need some assistance in determining which supplements to take for goals (weight loss, cutting, hardening, slight mass/strength). I am open to PH or real gear. I will be leaving in the next few weeks for overseas, money really isnÃ?Â¢??t an issue (not overly expensive for everything I need) but if its real then I am game and I would like to get my supplements VERY soon.[/quote]
Supplements or drugs? I wont even mention the use of PH’s, but when you refer to supplements are you including protein powders and ZMA etc… or just PH’s?
As for AAS to use… it depends on what you confirm you want? If it is simply running 2-5 miles faster, then virtually any anabolic in low-moderate dosages will assist this IF you are currently training for that. If not then maybe you should before adding drugs to the mix.
If you are really set on losing fat, then i would seriously suggest you simply inject a few hundred milligrams of testosterone a week while you diet down - you wont lose fat or gain muscle without the diet to support that.[quote]
Again, I want to do this right this is why I am posting. Any suggestions and or recommendations will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
It sounds to me as though your goals are particularly low and easily attained - meaning that the use of AAS to achieve them is simply not warranted. They are not without side effects and legal risks… and PH are worse IMO (side effects wise) and you can easily drop 5lbs or increase cardio ability in a month with no assistance.
If you say something that seems worthy of shutting down your own natural testosterone production for (yes, PH do this too and will still need illegally bought prescription only drugs to counter side effects and PCT) then i may have something to offer… until then i would say go for a run.