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First Testosterone Cycle, Been on TRT


#1

Hi fella's,

I'm new here, I'll tell a little about myself. I am 40, been training for 2 years. I have been on TRT for a year. I recently talked my dr into upping my dosage to 250mg of test a week. I also use anastrozole but no HCG.

I was hoping to run a test only cycle (first cycle) and up the dosage to 500mg a week by getting some extra test. I did not have much luck getting any decent extra test so I am asking this:

Since I only have 250mg a week what would be a decent item to stack with this?

My goal is to bulk. I am 6 ft tall 185 lbs 16% BF.


#2

how long have you been on the higher dose? what was your previous dose, and blood levels from that?


#3

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
how long have you been on the higher dose? what was your previous dose, and blood levels from that?[/quote]

I started on 150mg of test cyp weekly with 1/2 mg anastrozole Monday and Thurs.
My numbers were good. I don’t have them handy but right around the 800 mark for total test (trough). Hematocrit was towards the high mark but I give blood regularly. Estradiol was at the top of the normal range. I have been on the higher dose for 6 weeks and doc wants labs done at 10 weeks. I can guess at 250mg a week my total T is high but not high enough to do any good. I also take 1/2 mg anastrozole 3 times a week with the higher dose. I’ll bet my estradiol is in check because I feel great, my cock is hard, and I just had an aggressive chest work out.
I know the first cycle should be test only but I tried some other test I got and it just left big welts so it’s not practical. My friend uses it and tolerates it. I thought an oral may be an option to run along with my 250 mg’s.
I really don’t feel comfortable injecting something from an unknown website.


#4

[quote]garth2015 wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
how long have you been on the higher dose? what was your previous dose, and blood levels from that?[/quote]

I started on 150mg of test cyp weekly with 1/2 mg anastrozole Monday and Thurs.
My numbers were good. I don’t have them handy but right around the 800 mark for total test (trough). Hematocrit was towards the high mark but I give blood regularly. Estradiol was at the top of the normal range. I have been on the higher dose for 6 weeks and doc wants labs done at 10 weeks. I can guess at 250mg a week my total T is high but not high enough to do any good. I also take 1/2 mg anastrozole 3 times a week with the higher dose. I’ll bet my estradiol is in check because I feel great, my cock is hard, and I just had an aggressive chest work out.
I know the first cycle should be test only but I tried some other test I got and it just left big welts so it’s not practical. My friend uses it and tolerates it. I thought an oral may be an option to run along with my 250 mg’s.
I really don’t feel comfortable injecting something from an unknown website.

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And where exactly do you plan on getting an oral if you dont feel comfortable going through website or email


#5

Dude, I can’t tell you my sources! All I can tell you is it comes from a guy that uses the stuff also. He tolerates the pain and swelling but does not seem to have as much of it as I do. He gets it from a friend who may order it from somewhere online but at least 2 people have used the stuff and are still alive (not my actual vial though). I know it’s still a risk but at least there is some level of knowledge of the product before I inject it. Unless you’re gonna tip me off to a legit place, I’ll probably have to do ALOT more checking around.
You’re probably asking yourself: Why don’t Garth just ask his friends?

well, I have, and they suggest Anavar 75mg a day for 12 weeks oral. They have had no problems with the Anavar they get. I know it’s not necessarily a Bulking drug but they have had good experiences with it as far as lean gains and even re-comping.
I am still in my research phase. That’s why I’m here.


#6

Hi Garth.

About your plan.

Consider that perhaps you should be happy with just the 250mg test per week your doc gave you as TRT @ 6 feet 185 lbs and 16% bf.
( sounds like generous doctor ). For sure, even 250mg test per week does make difference for most males in 40’s with 2 years lifting experience. Even bulking wise. I think your doctor will drop the doze down after next labs.

I don’t wanna sound like an asshole, but perhaps just cut more first, do clean food bulk when you get lower bf and build more base after.
You propably think since you’re “already” 40 you can do short cut but i wouldn’t recommend it based solely on your current stats.
The road is always the same for all regardless of age.

With your plan you had, all you will gain is little muscle, lots of water, more fat for certain because you have to eat a lot 'cause that’s like the most important thing in bulking no matter what. You have to take the fat away anyway and it’s safe assumption that you can end up looking worse than you started off and get caught in a limbo.

Good luck bro!