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First Real Cycle, Need Advice Please


#1

hey everyone…want to run my first real cycle, and i say real because i was horribly instructed to run only a cycle of deca, alone with no pct when i was 19. so now im gyno prone and had a very small case of gyno that i never was able to get rid of. any way, im 32, 210lbs, 18.5% bf and wanf to run test-e 300 and eq 300. my primary goal is strength but a little more size wouldnt be horrible either. looking for help with a basic beginner cycle along with pct and what ai i should run on cycle to keep gyno in check…i really appreciate any feedback, thanks


#2

Diet first, lower bf% less sides and better gains…

Truthfully, you are not ready for a cycle, and you already did one with deca…only… man if your friend instructed u to inject blue liquid for leg gains you would probably do it? or jump off a bridge? why not research first…

Diet and nutrition is the number 1 thing about anything fitness related, if you do not know that you shouldnt even be getting close to these compounds, you are 18% bf… i repeat again…its a waste of time and money to even run a cycle with that much BF.

Reading your thread lets me know a couple of things, and the main one is you are not remotely ready, you will end up with shitty gains and gyno or in hospital. Good luck.


#3

Your right about my “friend” I was a dumb teenager and I definitely regret listening to him then. I did more research this morning …read about not even stacking on first cycle…I appreciate the feedback…I did read that under 20% bf was good…is 18.5% real bad? And what’s an acceptable %?


#4

not sure if you have read the gyno stickies posted here: Gyno Sticky by ksman, smart knowledgable and experienced guy he posts on here alot. Test protocol looks a bit low, 250 mg is pretty safe but a major change to your muscle and strength on test enenthate is usually 500mg per week, pin EOD ofcourse. read the stickies, and maybe some more stuff on EQ i am not sure dosing protocol of this particular ester.