[quote]Synthetickiller wrote:
dankid…
You’re wrong.
I do NOT think sheiko would work fine. I think a simpler 5x5 or pyramid type routine would work. 80% of his maxes is very different from 80% of mine in terms of loading, not knocking the OP, just looking back when I started 9 years ago. If 80% is only 10 lbs less than 90%, wtf is the difference? See my point?
Westside is far to complicated and IMO I’m not at an elite enough level to really take advantage of it and I’ve lifted 9 years and 2 or 3 of those years were using westside. No newbie needs speed work.
Beginners are very imbalanced. Usually all the stabilizers in a newbie are just not as solid as those in more experienced lifters.
Lifting is a progression and what works now probably wouldn’t work back then and visa versa. You can’t say there’s one end all, be all routine that fits anyone and everyone. The only thing constant in lifting is accommodation of your routine to fit your needs. If you hit a wall and keep doing the same things without improvement, you clearly have your head up your ass.
This all common sense stuff.
To the OP, don’t worry, its happened to me so many times, I can’t count. Just get some rest, re-evaluate whats going on AND most importantly, don’t let anyone or the weights play head games with you.
Good luck.
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I’d have to disagree, but You are more experienced with sheiko than me by a long shot. My GF is training with me, and is a beginner, and looks to be doing well on sheiko. When we started, her maxes were, 90, 135, and 155 for bench, squat, deadlift. But we’ll see how much stronger she is by the end.
I think any program can be made to work for almost anyone, and I still hold that having some guidelines in order is better than not following anything at all.
But I DID say that my choice for the OP would be starting strength.
EDIT: And WS4SB is a program that is used often with success for beginners.
This is the powerlifting forum, and if the OP is intersted in powerlifting, he might as well start using a powerlifting program