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First Post, Not a Cycle Suggestion


#1

Hi guys this is my first post so please be kind i have been working on learning as much as i can before posting so i.learned some.first so here i go! This is not a cycle.for me its just an idea so to see if i understand the basics behind making a cycle and how certain compounds work

im currently reading ANABOLICS by William Llewellyn and A leymans guide to steroids by Mike Hart and have few other books lined up plus i scroll the T Nation forum allot and the ANABOLICS SA forum as im from south africa and im trying my best to learn but some of the stuff is easier to understand through practice and board feedback so here i go

W 1-10 test enanthate 300mg
W 1-5 oral turinabol 50 mg

Bridge: (this is something im still learning about)
W 9-13 turinabol 50 mg til 2 days
PCT

30 days after last test injection and 3 days after last anavar/Tbol pill
Week 1 clomid 50 mg twice a day for 7 day
Week 2-5 nolvadex 20 mg per day for 30 days

plus arimidex at 0.5 mg EOD if i have side effects as i dont want to supres estrrgen when its not causing a problem if its in the normal.range ill keep it normal

Is HCG necesarry

Please guys somr.help.would be great


#2

Sounds really outdated In my opinion


#3

I think your test is a little low and you’ll be disappointed by the results. If you only want to run that dose it’s certainly not wrong to do so, but I think you’d be better off with the usual 500mg/week recommended for a first cycle.

I also think you’re waiting too long between your last pin and starting your PCT.


#4

[quote]jc001 wrote:
Hi guys this is my first post so please be kind i have been working on learning as much as i can before posting so i.learned some.first so here i go! This is not a cycle.for me its just an idea so to see if i understand the basics behind making a cycle and how certain compounds work

im currently reading ANABOLICS by William Llewellyn and A leymans guide to steroids by Mike Hart and have few other books lined up plus i scroll the T Nation forum allot and the ANABOLICS SA forum as im from south africa and im trying my best to learn but some of the stuff is easier to understand through practice and board feedback so here i go

W 1-10 test enanthate 300mg
W 1-5 oral turinabol 50 mg

Bridge: (this is something im still learning about)
W 9-13 turinabol 50 mg til 2 days
PCT

30 days after last test injection and 3 days after last anavar/Tbol pill
Week 1 clomid 50 mg twice a day for 7 day
Week 2-5 nolvadex 20 mg per day for 30 days

plus arimidex at 0.5 mg EOD if i have side effects as i dont want to supres estrrgen when its not causing a problem if its in the normal.range ill keep it normal

Is HCG necesarry

Please guys somr.help.would be great[/quote]

if this is your first cycle, then i’d avoid the bridge… it only adds to suppression. anymore, most guys that are “on” all the time will cruise on 250 mg (approx) of test a week.

anyway, the cycle itself looks decent, if your goal is 10 lbs or so. doubling the test will give you a lot more gains in size, though. but if you’re an athlete hoping to gain largely strength with a little size, then this should work well for you…

as far as the PCT, i agree that if should begin about 2 weeks after you stop the test.

20 mg of nolva a day typically works well.

also, i kick around some studies/ideas for PCT in this thread, as well: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/thoughts_on_planning_pct?id=5898188&pageNo=0


#5

hey @cycobushmaster

thanks for the reply!!

okay so you say i should up the test to 500mg then ill do so but would you ay the bridge between cycle and pct isnt necesary?

is HCG required on a cycle like this>?

in term of the time to wait i went with 3x half life of the longest acting agent?


#6

W 1-10 test E 500mg
W 1-4 Tbol 60mg
W 6-10 HCG 500IU EOD
W 6-10 ARiMIDEX 0.5MG EOD
W 9-13 tbol 60 mg
W 13-14 clomid 50 x 2 per day
W 14-17 nolva 20mg.per day

This a suggestion somehow.on another forum gave me as i posted it on a few forums

What do.you guys think