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First PH Cycle (Havoc)

Hello, I’m 23 years old, I train about 4+ years and I wanna push my limits a little, cuz I think I’m kinda stagnating for time. I know about food/training/supplements, I write for some bodybuilding websites and so on… So I’m not a newbie in “bodybuilding world”. My goal is gain some LEAN mass, lose some fat.

I been reading articles and researching for a long time. I decited to go with Havoc for my 1st cycle

I have read a lot about dosing, but Im not sure yet. There are recommendations for 4w cycle for example (20/30/40/40) but also atleast 5-6w cycle recommendation. And Its like 50/50 about dosingâ?¦. But I think, if its my 1st cycle, 4w dosing with 1 bottle of Havoc should be just fine. On the other hand, I wanna some decent results and 6w recommendation is from lot of experienced people

My Cycle Support would be:
Taurine 5-10g/day
Joint Supp (glucosamine,msm)
Scitec Liver AID
Milk Thistle
Other Supplements: protein whey, bcaa, leucine, glutamine, creatine (when back pumps would be just fine), omega3, coconut oil, zinc, magnesium, C vit, calcium.

PCT:
?? dont know ??â?¦. But i WANT to use SERM (I was thinking about combination with Erase (prot), Anabeta, Reversitol or something!) Maybe Nolvadex.I am always worried when coming off a cycle,for side effects like gyno and losing the gains made on cycle. So I think PCT ist totally important not to underrate.

THANKS GUYS!

[quote]gvnch wrote:
Hello, I’m 23 years old, I train about 4+ years and I wanna push my limits a little, cuz I think I’m kinda stagnating for time. I know about food/training/supplements, I write for some bodybuilding websites and so on… So I’m not a newbie in “bodybuilding world”. My goal is gain some LEAN mass, lose some fat.

I been reading articles and researching for a long time. I decited to go with Havoc for my 1st cycle

I have read a lot about dosing, but Im not sure yet. There are recommendations for 4w cycle for example (20/30/40/40) but also atleast 5-6w cycle recommendation. And Its like 50/50 about dosingâ?¦. But I think, if its my 1st cycle, 4w dosing with 1 bottle of Havoc should be just fine. On the other hand, I wanna some decent results and 6w recommendation is from lot of experienced people

My Cycle Support would be:
Taurine 5-10g/day
Joint Supp (glucosamine,msm)
Scitec Liver AID
Milk Thistle
Other Supplements: protein whey, bcaa, leucine, glutamine, creatine (when back pumps would be just fine), omega3, coconut oil, zinc, magnesium, C vit, calcium.

PCT:
?? dont know ??â?¦. But i WANT to use SERM (I was thinking about combination with Erase (prot), Anabeta, Reversitol or something!) Maybe Nolvadex.I am always worried when coming off a cycle,for side effects like gyno and losing the gains made on cycle. So I think PCT ist totally important not to underrate.

THANKS GUYS! [/quote]

Taking a pro hormone is like drinking non alcoholic beer. Get a refund and just buy juice dude.