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First Epi Cycle Plan


#1

Looking to start a mild first cycle on an epistane clone and just wanted to see if anyone thought I was missing something. Any input would be much appreciated! Am 5"8, currently 77kg at about 8-9% (aged 24).

Week 1 - 2: OCS, Liv. 52

Week 2 - 6: OCS, Liv. 52, Epi (20/30/30/40)

Week 6 - 8: PCT, Liv. 52, RECOUP PCT (Erase)

Think I will most likely run 20/30/30/40 on the epi although I've heard running the first week on 20 is a waste of time. That said I think if things are going well I may add another week on. Is there anything else that anyone could recommend?

My main concern is my PCT obviously. Will erase be enough to get my test back up to normal levels or will I need anything else (will probably chuck some ZMA in there)?

Also trying to get my hands on some nolvadex.


#2

use nolvadex for pct. don’t fuck around with the supplement company garbage. If you live in the US, getting nolvadex should not be a problem. Get something that actually works. Also, run the Epi at 40 the whole time. 20 and 30 are definitely a waste of time. I would also encourage 5 weeks.


#3

You can nolva from any number of reserach chem companies. Extreme peptides has never let me down yet. Although I’ve never used nolva because I’ve never come off.

Also it really would be best to run a test base instead of an oral only cycle.


#4

Thanks for the advice, will probably run 40 through the 4 weeks and see how i feel towards the end of it in terms of running one last week. So will I be all set just with some nolvadex, erase and some liver protection?

I’m in the UK so would rather not have anything come through customs.


#5

Also I don’t think I fully understand what a test base is, excuse my ignorance.


#6

[quote]lenfield90 wrote:
Also I don’t think I fully understand what a test base is, excuse my ignorance. [/quote]

Do you know that Epi is a designer steroid? It is not a “prohormone”.


#7

[quote]lenfield90 wrote:
Also I don’t think I fully understand what a test base is, excuse my ignorance. [/quote]

it means to run it alongside injectable testosterone


#8

this.

Since taking epi is going to shut you down anyway, might as well inject test with it as there is a chance you will experience low test sides while taking the epi, despite making gains in the gym.