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First Cycle

Nandrolone 450 mg per week
Stanozolol 50mg per day
Milk Thistle for liver

Not sure what other ancilliaries to use during cycle, and not clear what a good post cycle should look like. Is TRIBEX+M enough, or do I need Clom?

Goals are size gains with a minimum of side effects,especially concerning the liver.

Also, what would be a decent cycle length? 4 weeks?

vorn, you will most definitely need clomid/nolvadex post cycle and possibly HCG as deca is very suppressive…This cycle should be ran a minimum of 10 weeks assuming you’re using nandrolone decanoate and not phenylpropionate. If it were me, I’d add a small amount of test like 250mg/wk, so cycle would look like:

1-900mg deca 250mg test 20mg nolvadex
2-900mg deca 250mg test 20mg nolvadex
3-675mg deca 250mg test 10mg nolvadex
4-10:450mg deca 250mg test 40mg winstrol 10mg nolvadex
11-12:40mg winstrol
13-16:100mg clomid ed
I would also incorporate HCG after week 3 at 500iu on fri. and sat. all the way through week 12. That’s 'bout it, LMK if you have any q’s.

MK

[quote]Vorn wrote:
Nandrolone 450 mg per week
Stanozolol 50mg per day
Milk Thistle for liver

Not sure what other ancilliaries to use during cycle, and not clear what a good post cycle should look like. Is TRIBEX+M enough, or do I need Clom?

Goals are size gains with a minimum of side effects,especially concerning the liver.

Also, what would be a decent cycle length? 4 weeks?[/quote]

for a first cycle i’d suggest test only. run something like this:

8 weeks: Test E
week 1: frontload test @ 1000 mg
weeks 2-8: test E @ 500 mg, nolva @ 10 mg/day (you’ll need more nolva on hand, if you get sides, bump the dosage)
PCT: clomid @ 200/100/50
nolva @ 40/20/10

simple first cycle, wish i would’ve done something similar to this for my first. just my opinion, others may differ. ask vets like P22 for their input or read the steroid newbie thread.