And you recommend Trenbolone, one of the strongest androgens available, in the same breath as labelling Nandrolone which is one of the ‘safest’ steroids as harsh?
Nice work there.
(Considering that androgenic side effects are as a whole much more damaging to health than estrogenic side effects, i would consider the higher androgen anabolics to be ‘harsher’).
Also - seeing as you tell us that ‘deca’ will not help his injury, and as such is useless for that reason - by what mechanism would Trenbolone?
Even you have recognized the problem with debating this type of thing by putting quote marks around the word safest. The safety of AAS is relative to the user in many cases.
One can easily make the argument that real trenbolone is safer than nandrolone if their definition of safety focuses on the long lasting effects nadrolone has on sex drive and recovery.
This is not to start an argument but you cant say, in black and white, that stronger androgens are inherently more dangerous than weaker androgens. I would not recommend nandrolone or trenbolone in a first, second, or maybe even third cycle TBH. u[/quote]
True however -
Trenbolone IS a nandrolone derivative and so is likely to be almost as suppressive as Nandrolone - the only difference being (IMO) the level of activity at the progesterone receptor and the level of aromatisation.
The aromatisation is a non-issue as tren is often stacked with aromatising steroids… and some do seem to have progesterone-like problems from Trenbolone - especially (or actually IMO, exclusively) when they do not control estrogen.
I am not recommending Nand OR tren to this guy (shit, i havent even read his post!) but i am simply calling the guy who considers Nandrolone one of the Harsher drugs, out.
Harshness it has to be agreed by the dictonary definition is a word much better matched to androgenic sides rather than estrogenic sides (not that they are exclusive of one another in reality but the point needs to be made).
Suppression (of libido and HPTA) is the ONLY side effect of nandrolone, whereas Trenbolone will swell the prostate (with estrogenic drugs), worsen acne, aggression and mood, reduce sleep and it is worse on the hair line than nandrolone.
Now - remembering the only point of my post is to argue that Nandrolone is NOT one of the Harsher steroids and that it is certainly not ‘Harsher’ than trenbolone - do you agree?
(it is fine if you still dont but i wanted to clarify my position… )