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First Cycle Review


hi, I'm looking for a little feedback on my first cycle after reading through here and mick harts books I have decided on:

Week 1: 10mg dibol/day
week 2: 20mg
week 3: 30mg
week 4: 30mg
week 5: 20mg
week 6: 10mg

week 1-8: 20mg nolvadex

simple, cheap and no pins for my firat run.

age: 28
16% bf

thanks again for your advice and all of the great info on here.


Read steroid newbie thread. Reread it. Carefully. Then look at your post again.


I did. what's your point?


Nvm let me know how that works out for you.


Ok now go back and read it again but this time actually read it


I just don't like the idea if pins. at least on my furst cycle. which us why I didn't choose test e. plus there seem to be more sides. will the above cycle not do much or what?





seriously though dont expect much out of that cycle or this forum if you are only interested in orals


Harden up princess and learn to pin. I had a near phobia of needles but worked through it. Your cycle won't get any kudos here.


ok. I guess if I'm going to do it I might as well do it right.
Pretty much a copy from phillyfootball's thread. thanks bro.

does this sound ok?

Week 1-10 Test E 250 E3D
Week 1-12 Arimidex 0.5 mg EOD
Week 3-12 HCG 250IU EOD

Week 13-16 Nolva 20 2xD /40 2xD /20 /20mg

I'm going to buy enough nolva to be able to start it on week 2 @ 20mg a day in case my nipples start to get itchy and sore, or will that mot be an issue with the adex?

Just to confirm, I should be ordering #25, .5ml, 1/2" needles right? injecting into quad is ok?

thanks again guys. really appreciate the input.


Cycle looks good, having a few nolva handy is a good idea but I don't think you will need enough extra to last ED weeks 2-12, but you can always use em later. 25 mg a day for a couple days clears up anything I've ever experienced, but I am not sensitive to gyno effects.

Taper off your arimidex as the test is clearing during weeks 10-12. If you stop it suddenly you can have an estrogen rebound from the excess aromatase enzyme floating around. I would suggest week 11 .5 mg E3D and then .25 mg E3D week 12.

Discontinue HCG 4-5 days before beginning pct.

Injecting into quad is ok. My first cycle was E3D injections and I strictly put it in lateral quad. Warm your oil by running the syringe under hot water for a minute, push the needle in slowly all the way, ASPIRATE to make sure you aren't in a vein and push the plunger in good and slow to minimize discomfort. Also replace the needle after your draw the oil out of the vial with a fresh one before sticking it in. Push out a small bead of oil on the tip, and tilt the syringe back and forth to lubricate the needle, it makes it go smoother.

The needle size you are suggesting is a little small in volume if I may say so. I used 23g 3ml 1.5'', but that was a bit big. .5ml is a very low volume, you will have to do multiple shots unless your test is like 500mg/ml (you can combine hcg in bacteriostatic with your oil and inject it all IM btw)

The needle length is also a bit small, many people suggest using insulin pins but I'm unsure of the length and volume of insulin syringes that are not U100. I think an inch would be a good idea, especially if you have some fat there, you want to make sure you get it into the muscle. I used to push the full 1.5'' and I have a low percent body fat.

Good luck pal


Kudos for taking the advice. I wish there was an easier softer way for many things in life. Good luck and report back.