since the OP has all his qns answered…time to hijack this thread… and since you guys dont listen to anything i say… time to show my sources… just an excerpt from one of teh books i have…
It is important to note that anti-estrogen use may slightly reduce gains made during a steroid cycle, as many androgenic/anabolic steroids seem to exhibit their most powerful anabolic effects when accompanied by a sufficient level of estrogen (See: Estrogen Aromatization). This may be one reason why gains made with a strong aromatizable androgen like testosterone are usually more pronounced than those achieved with anabolic steroids that aromatizes to a lower (or no) degree.
Therefore, it is usually advised to identify a specific need for an anti estrogen before committing to its use during a cycle. Many people, in fact, find the use of an anti-estrogen unnecessary, even when utilizing problematic compounds such as testosterone or methandrostenolone.
Others, however, find they are troubled by water retention and gynecomastia even with milder (less estrogenic) drugs like Deca-DurabolinÃ??Ã?Â® and EquipoiseÃ??Ã?Â®. The estrogenic response to steroid use is very individual, and may be influenced by factors such as age and body fat percentage (adipose tissue is a primary site of aromatization).
so walkaway, installglass, for newbies on light first cycles isnt it better to wait till sides ?[/quote]
You are referencing a book written in 2008 and published in 2009. LLewellyn’s 9th edition. Knowledge has certainly evolved in 5 years. Besides that lets break down the statement. “MAY” meaning possibly (possibly not), “SLIGHTLY” meaning a small amount. So possibly reduce your gains by a small amount. Is your health more important than the extra “slight” amount of weight gain? I would certainly sacrifice a pound or two (not saying I agree that I would be) to insure my short and long term health. Unless you don’t mind diabetes, heart disease, or cancer. High estrogen raises the risk for all of these among other things.
It is my opinion that any “additional gains” you get from skipping the AI are water weight that you will subsequently lose anyway. So you’ve exposed yourself to real damage for a few pounds of water weight that won’t last.
Just out of curiosity, did you get vaccinated as a child? If you have children would you get them vaccinated or just roll the dice and figure you can deal with polio or small pox after the signs show up?