First Cycle - Need Suggestions: Test/Tbol

Hi, I’m about to start my first cycle of 12 weeks. What I have in hand is:

  • Test (Omnadren) Testosterone propionate/testosterone phenylpropionate/testosterone isocaproate/testosterone caproate** (TP/TPP/TiC/TCa ) 250mg

  • Nolvadex 10mg

  • Proviron 25mg

  • Tbol 20mg

  • Choriomon HCG

I Intend to take Test once every 5 days, but not sure how to spread the other stuff precisely. If anybody can give me a decent cycle+pct program I’m all open for suggestions. I can remove some of the stuff as well if it seems like an overkill for a first cycle.

You don’t. Test only is plenty for your first cycle. Nolva for your PCT


I’d just remove the proviron TBH. HCG and Tbol are pretty manageable for most.

I’d run the test at 400-500 mg/wk the 12 weeks. Tbol at 20-40 mg/day for the last 4-6 weeks. I’d take the HCG at like 500 iu EOD during the bridge (3-4 weeks) between the anabolics and SERM PCT. I’d run the SERM PCT of Nolva at 20 mg/day for 6 weeks. I may do an additional two weeks at 10 mg/day. I’d start the SERM at week 15 or 16.


Thank you and mnben87 for the answer.

What to expect on test only cycle. My natty test levels are on the higher end → 700ng

Will the boost make noticeable gains in the mirror and how fast does recovery usually take to baseline after first cycle. I heard it is somewhat around 2-3 months.

My goal is to make a clean bulk, slight recomp

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IMO using AAS for your first cycle with the goal of recomp or fat loss is just a waste of testosterone. You’re gonna be primed to build muscle, so do that. Don’t eat like an asshole, but keep calories above maintenance to take advantage. After you’ve been off cycle for 3-5 months and held onto whatever you could from the cycle, then you can think about doing a low dose cut, if you use AAS to cut at all.