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First Cycle, Help a Brother Out


#1

Hi guys i would like peoples opinion on this. Here is some back ground info. I have been working out for 10+ years. I am 26 years old i have mastered weights and cardio. Right know i am getting gains full time and don't have to work to support myself. So i am taking this opportunity to do my first cycle. My goal is to put on lean mass with MINIMUM amount dosage. It is my personal preference to keep the dosage low because i would like to see how my body reacts to it first. i am staying away from Orals.

my current stats are 180, 8 percent body fat, 5'8

week 1, 200mg test E
week 2, 200mg test E
week 3, 300mg test E,
week 4, 300mg test E
Week 5, 300 mg test E
week 6, 350 mg test E
week 7, 359 mg Test E.

I will have tamoxifen incase of water bloat or gyno. I'm sure i will not have that problem with such low dosages but everybody is different so just in case.

PCT - 8 days after last shot
HCG 2000IU every other day for 20days
clomid 50mg 2x a day 30 days
nolvadex 2x a day for 45 days

appreciate any advice thank you.


#2

your cycle is weird


#3

[quote]ilikecookies123 wrote:
Hi guys i would like peoples opinion on this. Here is some back ground info. I have been working out for 10+ years. I am 26 years old i have mastered weights and cardio. Right know i am getting gains full time and don’t have to work to support myself. So i am taking this opportunity to do my first cycle. My goal is to put on lean mass with MINIMUM amount dosage. It is my personal preference to keep the dosage low because i would like to see how my body reacts to it first. i am staying away from Orals.

my current stats are 180, 8 percent body fat, 5’8

week 1, 200mg test E
week 2, 200mg test E
week 3, 300mg test E,
week 4, 300mg test E
Week 5, 300 mg test E
week 6, 350 mg test E
week 7, 359 mg Test E.

I will have tamoxifen incase of water bloat or gyno. I’m sure i will not have that problem with such low dosages but everybody is different so just in case.

PCT - 8 days after last shot
HCG 2000IU every other day for 20days
clomid 50mg 2x a day 30 days
nolvadex 2x a day for 45 days

appreciate any advice thank you.[/quote]

A few things…
If you’re actually 8% bodyfat, you’ve probably got a relatively impressive physique. What do your gym numbers look like on some of the big lifts?

I lol’ed at “I have mastered weights and cardio.”

PCT should be 2 weeks after last shot, not 1. And your PCT is overkill. Just go with the Nolvadex.

Your cycle should be longer if you want reasonable results.

You should have an AI on hand. Any reason you’ve left this out? Get Adex. (tamox is not an AI, not sure if you’re aware…)

I don’t think this cycle is worth doing. At such low dosing, with no oral kickstarter, and for such a short duration, it’s likely that your gains will be minimal, if you even make any. TRT doses can potentially be as high as 200 or even 250 per week, so there’s a decent chance you won’t actually achieve higher testosterone levels than what you already have. You should get bloodwork first, at the very least, to see where you’re at before your cycle. If you’re around 400, you’ll notice a difference with this cycle. If you’re 900, this cycle is without a doubt a terrible idea.


#4

[quote]ilikecookies123 wrote:
Hi guys i would like peoples opinion on this. Here is some back ground info. I have been working out for 10+ years. I am 26 years old i have mastered weights and cardio. Right know i am getting gains full time and don’t have to work to support myself. So i am taking this opportunity to do my first cycle. My goal is to put on lean mass with MINIMUM amount dosage. It is my personal preference to keep the dosage low because i would like to see how my body reacts to it first. i am staying away from Orals.

my current stats are 180, 8 percent body fat, 5’8

week 1, 200mg test E
week 2, 200mg test E
week 3, 300mg test E,
week 4, 300mg test E
Week 5, 300 mg test E
week 6, 350 mg test E
week 7, 359 mg Test E.

I will have tamoxifen incase of water bloat or gyno. I’m sure i will not have that problem with such low dosages but everybody is different so just in case.

PCT - 8 days after last shot
HCG 2000IU every other day for 20days
clomid 50mg 2x a day 30 days
nolvadex 2x a day for 45 days

appreciate any advice thank you.[/quote]
this looks stupidly 2 ml a week 10 weeks tamoxifen on hAnd get some clomid simplest of cycles if u need advice on that do some more research Bro


#5

[quote]farmarkcueticals wrote:

[quote]ilikecookies123 wrote:
Hi guys i would like peoples opinion on this. Here is some back ground info. I have been working out for 10+ years. I am 26 years old i have mastered weights and cardio. Right know i am getting gains full time and don’t have to work to support myself. So i am taking this opportunity to do my first cycle. My goal is to put on lean mass with MINIMUM amount dosage. It is my personal preference to keep the dosage low because i would like to see how my body reacts to it first. i am staying away from Orals.

my current stats are 180, 8 percent body fat, 5’8

week 1, 200mg test E
week 2, 200mg test E
week 3, 300mg test E,
week 4, 300mg test E
Week 5, 300 mg test E
week 6, 350 mg test E
week 7, 359 mg Test E.

I will have tamoxifen incase of water bloat or gyno. I’m sure i will not have that problem with such low dosages but everybody is different so just in case.

PCT - 8 days after last shot
HCG 2000IU every other day for 20days
clomid 50mg 2x a day 30 days
nolvadex 2x a day for 45 days

appreciate any advice thank you.[/quote]
this looks stupidly 2 ml a week 10 weeks tamoxifen on hAnd get some clomid simplest of cycles if u need advice on that do some more research Bro[/quote]

Says the 24 year old, 6 foot 2, 170 pound guy with a 360 pound deadlift after a 12 week Test and Dbol cycle lol. Man the irony. Looks much better than your than 2 weeks shitty proposed cycle. You should be researching just as much.


#6

[quote]ilikecookies123 wrote:
Hi guys i would like peoples opinion on this. Here is some back ground info. I have been working out for 10+ years. I am 26 years old i have mastered weights and cardio. Right know i am getting gains full time and don’t have to work to support myself. So i am taking this opportunity to do my first cycle. My goal is to put on lean mass with MINIMUM amount dosage. It is my personal preference to keep the dosage low because i would like to see how my body reacts to it first. i am staying away from Orals.

my current stats are 180, 8 percent body fat, 5’8

week 1, 200mg test E
week 2, 200mg test E
week 3, 300mg test E,
week 4, 300mg test E
Week 5, 300 mg test E
week 6, 350 mg test E
week 7, 359 mg Test E.

I will have tamoxifen incase of water bloat or gyno. I’m sure i will not have that problem with such low dosages but everybody is different so just in case.

PCT - 8 days after last shot
HCG 2000IU every other day for 20days
clomid 50mg 2x a day 30 days
nolvadex 2x a day for 45 days

appreciate any advice thank you.[/quote]

5’ 8" @ 180lbs and only 8% would look pretty good for someone natural IMO. Mastered weights and cardio is a funny comment, but…meh

I’d add an AI to your cycle and revisit your PCT (it might not be TERRIBLE but you’re starting too early and I doubt you need both Tam and Chlom on that low dosage)

Just my opinion.

You should post some pics