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First Cycle Guidance

HGT- 6’3
WGT- 210
BF%- 14
AGE- 20
Weightlifting Experience - 2 Years Amateur, 3 Years Serious
Food Break Down- 40/40/20
Calories 3500

Okay So i have been lifting weights for about 3 years now and have done a whole bunch of homework on hundreds of different topics. However, where my knowledge runs dry is here, anabolic steroid cycles and PCT. Always told myself i wouldn’t, but after many threads Ive come to realize not taking advantage of something like this is just pointless. With Summer around the corner, im considering running a
Tren / Test Prop/ Winny Cycle and was hoping to receive some guidance on this.

Test Prop | 50mg | (EOD) Week 1-10
Trenbolone | 75mg | (EOD) Week 1-8
Winstrol | 25mg | (ED) Week 6-10

So that is the cycle i plan on running. You may be wondering why such a low Test dose. I figured I’m 20 years old, I’m still young, so my test levels are still through the roof. If im mistaken about that let me know!

As for the Trenbolone, I figured 75mg should be fine for a first cycle especially from reading up on the hard side effects. Might even only run it Mon, Wed, Fri, instead of EOD

For the Winstrol, I’m still in between whether I should get the inject-able or the tablets. Do i need to buy some kinda of liver support if i choose to go with the tablets? If I go with the inject-able, should i find an oil based winny (if it exists) to take all in 1 shot with the test and tren?

I have experience with Clen and ECA stacks but was wondering if i could alternate the two, cycling every 2 weeks.

Lastly is the PCT. Seeing as i have never run a cycle like this ever, like any newbie i jumped right into the big guns (tren, winny, test) doing a whole bunch of research but am near clueless when it comes to what to take at what times for the PCT. Any and all information, please share your knowledge!

Lastly, I was planning on jabbing the quads only alternating them using 25ga 1" Needles to inject and 21ga 1 1/2" needles to draw.

Any Comments on the doses or cycle, Please inform me on anything! Any words of advice! Critiques! Comments! Questions! Concerns! Let me have it.

Also, if i posted to the wrong thread, sorry!

you are 20 years old, your natural test SHOULD be high, but that doesn’t mean that it is… everyone is different. a friend of mine had very low natural test at your age.

prop and ace are ideally injected ED not EOD…

don’t use winstrol, it’s a terrible drug

you can alternate clen/eca in 2 week increments yes

pct clomid 100/100/75/50
aromasin 12.5/6.25/6.25/3.125

Be aware, when you are using AAS your natural test will virtually shut down, hence the use of hcg to maintain the boys. Your are hardly using a trt dose of test at 175 mg a week.

Why are you getting creative fir your first cycle when there are tried and true first cyces in the stickies?

Stick to dbol for your first oral.

If you have a good frst cycle, you will either get the results you want or be comfortable with doing more cycles.

If you are doing tren because you want to be lean then just stick to the clen until you get as lean as you want. Then do a cycle.

If you are hell bent on doing tren, well ok. But learn to drive before taking out the ferrarri. The more compounds you take means the harder to pinpoint what is going wrong.

I would stick with test only first cycle and possibly and oral. Tren isn’t for a first time user.

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I would stick with test only first cycle and possibly and oral. Tren isn’t for a first time user. [/quote]

broscience

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I would stick with test only first cycle and possibly and oral. Tren isn’t for a first time user. [/quote]

broscience[/quote]

you make weight for your 125lbs JV wrestling match yet?

[quote]lbraga wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I would stick with test only first cycle and possibly and oral. Tren isn’t for a first time user. [/quote]

broscience[/quote]

you make weight for your 125lbs JV wrestling match yet?[/quote]

I guess this is what they call a non sequitur…?

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
I would stick with test only first cycle and possibly and oral. Tren isn’t for a first time user. [/quote]

broscience[/quote]

How would recommending not running one the strongest steriods for a first cycle bro science?