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Finastride Question


#1

hypothetically speaking..

if I was on a gram of Test a week would 1mg propecia ED be enough, if I noticed my hair thinning.

thats all the info I can offer and I hope I get some solid replies from the vets. thank you.


#2

Just a heads up; if you're on 1g of Test and adding a 5ar inhibitor, might want to add or up the AIs too.


#3

I second that advice, and no, I do not think 1 mg ED would be enough, by a wide margin.


#4

yup got AI in check, lots of experience with it so I know what works for me..but zero experience with propecia. errrrrrr so 1.5mg-2 on 1 gram maybe? I suppose run it and see what shuts me down? or if propecia even does shut me down. I have 5mg tabs of finastride generic shit


#5

1 mg of finasteride in hair count trials has been shown to be almost as effective as 5 mg of finasteride, so taking 2mg would almost be pointless. If you cut the 5mg into quarters and take 1.25 mg a day I'll bet you'll be fine. If you're really paranoid grab some Nizoral shampoo which will help reduce DHT topically.


#6

If 1mg is the dosage prescribed to normal men to combat hair loss, I would imagine you would need more, especially since finasteride only blocks about 60-70% (?) dht. Also, I do recall reading a study that the response time of a dosage is relatively slow (compared to dutasteride), so by upping your dosage you wont necessarily be stopping hair loss right after or even preventing it when starting it on day 1 of your cycle.

I tried finasteride (research chem) on my very first cycle (TE 500mg/wk, ND 300mg/wk), right from the start and used 1-2mg ED. I was losing hair before cycle and continued to lose it on-cycle. HOWEVER, continued loss on-cycle may have been due to the fact that I was running Deca at the time as well (I didn't know any better then).

Regardless, what I started using after, both on-cycle and off is dutasteride (generic human grade) and I have seen very good results. No shedding during my cycles (Test 625mg/wk) and obviously none when I'm off. I'm planning on running a big test cycle like you and have been considering taking at least 1mg of dutasteride a day.


#7

Effectiveness of finasteride diminishes quickly past 1mg which is how they arrived at that dosage to treat MPB. If the OP wants to use a stronger DHT inhibitor then he may as well break out some Advodart, which will reduce DHT levels by 90%.. Of course, there's a greater chance of sides with Advodart.


#8

okay very good points, thank you. will start on fina asap and well before cycle, and try to track down dutasteride or advo. Anyone know a good place for those products? I think someone posted a link to a hair products page which had the topical solution as well as research chems. I know the forum rules so PM me any information anyone is willing to share. thanks


#9

also any of you fellas have experience with Spironolactone? good? bad? waste of money?


#10

how long did avodart take to start working for you? did you use prior to cycle or start at the begining of your cycle?


#11

I honestly cant recall the exact details, so I imagine it was relatively quick since I have nothing to complain about and I later continued to stay on it. Do some research, I remember reading an article that said that said something like dutasteride significantly lowers DHT levels in just a week and then to its maximum not too long after.