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Finally Trying Suppliments, Advice?

okay so im thinking of ordering the HOT-ROX Extreme just to try it out and see how it does. im not into stimulants as they usually make me feel really loopy (hell taking a few advil makes me feel weird) from what ive read in the info and from people whove used it some say it has a strong mood altering effect and slight energy boost and some say they feel nothing at all and then some more have said it made them feel loopy.

second i want to get Flameout and mabye some Metabolic Drive Complete since i work as a kitchen manager i dont have time to always sit down and prepare a good meal to eat ever few hours i could just make a shake real quick and down it and get back to working, but will taking HOT-ROX Extreme and Flameout with Metabolic Drive have any adverse effects?

and my last question is there any caffiene in HRX?

oh also can HRX get shipped into canada okay? i remember reading how some people were having problems? any solutions for getting it in or something similar i could use in its place?

First, make sure your diet is in order first. What that means is you are already losing 1 to 2 pounds a week consistantly. If HOT-ROX works, it works in that condition. Dont order the pills and eat 5,000 calories a day and than call up Biotest for a refund. You have to put in the effort for fat loss, the pill might help a little, but it certainly doesnt do the work.

Also, and I know im going to sound like a Biotest rep or something, but order at least 3 bottles of Hot-Rox. I made the stupid mistake when I was just starting to order 1 bottle and took it for a whopping 2 weeks. Even if it worked miracles, 2 weeks isnt shit. You need to plan out a solid 12 to 16 week supplement cycle.

Flameout is awesome, Metabolic Drive is awesome. Taking them will not have any adverse effects.

yes im already loosing 1-2 sometimes 3 pounds a week, while mabye having 1% strength gains a month VERY slowly, but i have been dieting for over 9 months now so i should be glad im not loosing strength right? i think the HRX would help with keeping what msucle mass i got now (im 6’3 248 pounds atm) i was 350 when i started trying to drop weight. now my only concerne is wether or not it will ship fine into canada i dont wanna drop 200 dollars on this order and have it stopped at the border…

[quote]john-lennon wrote:
yes im already loosing 1-2 sometimes 3 pounds a week, while mabye having 1% strength gains a month VERY slowly, but i have been dieting for over 9 months now so i should be glad im not loosing strength right? i think the HRX would help with keeping what msucle mass i got now (im 6’3 248 pounds atm) i was 350 when i started trying to drop weight. now my only concerne is wether or not it will ship fine into canada i dont wanna drop 200 dollars on this order and have it stopped at the border…[/quote]

Well geez those are pretty good consistent results. Why do you feel the need to add the HRX in? If you’re worried about muscle loss and stimulants, check out Carbolin 19. It may be a better idea for you.

well Carbolin 19 is out of stock, and also im starting to need something to give me akick in the pants, im only getting tgo the gym once or twice a week now as i work late and in order to get 8-10 hours sleep a night i cant make i to the gym before my next shift, im also feeling tired some times, and could use an energy boost.

i know there is Spike but like i said before im really sensitive to stimulants and i dont want to be loopy especially when im working with a big sharp knife all day :wink:

[quote]eengrms76 wrote:
john-lennon wrote:
yes im already loosing 1-2 sometimes 3 pounds a week, while mabye having 1% strength gains a month VERY slowly, but i have been dieting for over 9 months now so i should be glad im not loosing strength right? i think the HRX would help with keeping what msucle mass i got now (im 6’3 248 pounds atm) i was 350 when i started trying to drop weight. now my only concerne is wether or not it will ship fine into canada i dont wanna drop 200 dollars on this order and have it stopped at the border…

Well geez those are pretty good consistent results. Why do you feel the need to add the HRX in? If you’re worried about muscle loss and stimulants, check out Carbolin 19. It may be a better idea for you.[/quote]

eengrms, HOT-ROX Extreme contains Carbolin 19. I personally think Extreme is not only wicked at slicing fat, but also pretty damn anabolic and will help keep muscle when cutting back on cals.

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yeah HRX has some Carbolin 19 in it too, but from what everyone has been saying if im already loosing 1-2 pounds a week i dont need HRX?

and since i would like the Carbolin 19 effects but its sold out, how about Alpha Male? im 22 years old should i stay away from it until im older or is it okay to use at my age? gah trying to choose which is best is a hard desicison to say the least.

if the HRX really does help break up pockets of fat i could use that, but if its just going to increase my fat loss by a tiny ammount i dont think thats worth the cost do you?

[quote]john-lennon wrote:
yeah HRX has some Carbolin 19 in it too, but from what everyone has been saying if im already loosing 1-2 pounds a week i dont need HRX?

and since i would like the Carbolin 19 effects but its sold out, how about Alpha Male? im 22 years old should i stay away from it until im older or is it okay to use at my age? gah trying to choose which is best is a hard desicison to say the least.

if the HRX really does help break up pockets of fat i could use that, but if its just going to increase my fat loss by a tiny ammount i dont think thats worth the cost do you?[/quote]

Alpha Male would be fine. Even if you are younger it’s not going to alter or damage your hormone stability. It will just help to increase your natural production of test. Too many people associate the harmful effects of synthetic androgens to a quality natural test booster like Alpha Male. Simply put it’s not harmful and can only help or increase test production.

However, if fat loss is the goal then HOT-ROX Extreme is what I would recommend to you. Not only will it give you a great boost in energy, but it’s going to increase fat loss and A7-E and Carbolin 19 are highly anabolic helping to keep or even gain muscle if nutrition is right.

Ultimately you will have to pick one and give it a whirl and see what you think. I don’t think you will go wrong either way if your nutrition and workout bases are covered.

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okay i think ill try the HOT-ROX Extreme and order it with my Flameout and Metabolic Drive Complete, if i dont notice anything different than usual in a months time ill try Alpha Male i guess.

[quote]Dedicated wrote:
eengrms, HOT-ROX Extreme contains Carbolin 19. I personally think Extreme is not only wicked at slicing fat, but also pretty damn anabolic and will help keep muscle when cutting back on cals.

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I know. The guy said he was worried about taking stimulants so I figured this might be a better option for him. Didn’t know it was out of stock.

just got my body comp testign done, im down to 26% body fat from 36% but ive lost 5-9 lbs of lean muscle mass since july ( i was 31% bf in july and im 26% now)

i was talking to this monster of a man at my gym whos the strongest man in ontario (won the comp a few times) and he suggested ive lost enough weight and to pump up my protein intake as im not quite at even 1g per body weight and gain some muscle mass and strength for a few months cycle and then check where im at for fat gain or loss?

Definitely get your protein intake in check. Protein is one of the best things you can eat during a diet due to its thermic nature(your body has to burn upwards or 30% of the calories it contains just to store it). That might be the “missing link” in your diet right that as far as keeping muscle does.

BTW- Congrats of losing 10% body fat, thats really an accomplishment and I hope you can stick it out until you reach your goals.

You may want to hold on on HRX until you get into the low teens. You will have been dieting a fairly long time at that point and it might be a little motivating. Might make you think “Well, I dont want to waste the HRX, so I better eat right”

I’ve received my HOT-ROX just fine into Canada.

As for Carbolin 19, I’ve never tried it on it’s own since the store in Canada I go to sells it for $70/bottle. Way too much for me.

I like the TRIBEX gold/HOT-ROX combo myself.

It’s strange how little and or poorly cooks eat at work. I was at a restaurant for 7 years and a 10 hour shift might have me eating twice.