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Feeling Constantly Tired

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#1

Hi guys since I dropped HCG from my protocol a couple of months ago I have been feeling extremely tired mostly every day.

While I feel better off HCG I have definitely noticed being tired and a bit weaker.

My levels are the exact same as I increased my T dose to compensate for dropping HCG.

I inject 40mg every 3.5 days and have done consistently for over a year and never been an issue but I also notice start to feel even more tired around the end of the second day and third day mark.

It’s really affecting my work and so on.

I try to keep my total T in the 600 - 700 mark as this is where I feel best while also keeping my E2 below 20.

My SHBG is very low at 13.

Just wondering aside from Thyroid and FBC, what could I get tested by my GP that contributes to tiredness?

Also anyone any experience of feeling tired after dropping HCG?

#2

What’s the lab range for E2?

#3

Inject daily or EOD

#4

I really can’t be dealing with frequent injections, not that I’m lazy but it just feels better knowing I’m not injecting so much if that makes sense.

#5

Here we have another example of trying to play the numbers game. E2 below 20 is death. SHBG of 13 on a 2 shots a week protocolo is a roller coaster. You’re also in flux right now.

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#6

Low E2 can cause fatigue, just ask anyone who has taken an AI.

#7

@wjc89 Are you currently taking an AI?

#8

Check sleep apnea. That was my problem

#9

What if injecting so much is the key to making you feel better? Seems like it would be worth it then

#10

Use 29g needles to make it easier for daily shots. Its your medicine, its no different than diabetics who have to inject daily.

#11

I think the most glaring problem is thinking 20 e2 is OK. It’s not by ANY means in this case.

Add on top that HCG aromatize quite a bit, you most likely had higher e2 levels when using it.

Lastly, have you tried adding back HCG to see how you feel? If not why not.

#12

and how did you solve this problem? is apnea cured?

#13

I got a new CPAP off of craigslist and a mask. I just recently got a mask that I like so my compliance is not a problem now. I also have a pulse oximeter that I wear at night and it tells me my O2 all night. WIth the CPAP my O2 saturation is good and I feel great during the day. Without the therapy I am exhausted yet tense all day.