Feedback on Routine

Understood. I appreciate the feedback.

[quote]craze9 wrote:
I agree with Punisher.

Personally I don’t like the routine very much, I think there are many better ones on this site, but I’m sure you can make good progress with it nonetheless if you go at it hard and recover and eat well.
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x3

too many exercises

for me the third day/abz-athon is a complete waste but whatever, if its working and numbers going up on the big lifts then stick with it till you stall. When you do stall move on to a proven 3 day like Texas method

[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
for me the third day/abz-athon is a complete waste but whatever, if its working and numbers going up on the big lifts then stick with it till you stall. When you do stall move on to a proven 3 day like Texas method [/quote]

10-4. Now we’re cooking with bacon.

I have considered dropping a few of the moves on the third day and adding another compound. If that sounds good what do you think would be wise? Sqaut, DL, Bench or another? Texas Method next is actually what I had in mind.

What’s a hammer up?

Forget all that complete nonsense and read this:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
What’s a hammer up?[/quote]

I think it’s actually called a Hammer Grip Pull-up. Just thumbs pointed towards my face.

[quote]Angus1 wrote:
Forget all that complete nonsense and read this:

Great thread, thanks for sharing. That looks challenging. I bet that ramp up keeps the muscles guessing.

Plenty, plenty of options already listed for you, you need to pick one and do it.

[quote]sweet-t wrote:

[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
for me the third day/abz-athon is a complete waste but whatever, if its working and numbers going up on the big lifts then stick with it till you stall. When you do stall move on to a proven 3 day like Texas method [/quote]

10-4. Now we’re cooking with bacon.

I have considered dropping a few of the moves on the third day and adding another compound. If that sounds good what do you think would be wise? Sqaut, DL, Bench or another? Texas Method next is actually what I had in mind.[/quote]

high rep/volume, low impact: leg press, press ups, lat pulldown, 1 abs move. Thats it. All for about 5x20.

-Basically give your body a markedly different stimulus and get the blood flowing

[quote]RampantBadger wrote:

[quote]sweet-t wrote:

[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
for me the third day/abz-athon is a complete waste but whatever, if its working and numbers going up on the big lifts then stick with it till you stall. When you do stall move on to a proven 3 day like Texas method [/quote]

10-4. Now we’re cooking with bacon.

I have considered dropping a few of the moves on the third day and adding another compound. If that sounds good what do you think would be wise? Sqaut, DL, Bench or another? Texas Method next is actually what I had in mind.[/quote]

high rep/volume, low impact: leg press, press ups, lat pulldown, 1 abs move. Thats it. All for about 5x20.

-Basically give your body a markedly different stimulus and get the blood flowing[/quote]

I see what you mean. With only three days per week, 33% dedicated to core is something to consider. 5X20 would certainly get the blood flowing.

Thank you for the suggestions Sir.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

Pick any routine, follow it with violent intensity, and you will get results.[/quote]

This is one of the wisest things you will ever read on the Internet.

[quote]Wyfaggro wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

Pick any routine, follow it with violent intensity, and you will get results.[/quote]

This is one of the wisest things you will ever read on the Internet.[/quote]

I completely agree. Keep it simple stupid and work your ass off!

[quote]sweet-t wrote:

[quote]Wyfaggro wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

Pick any routine, follow it with violent intensity, and you will get results.[/quote]

This is one of the wisest things you will ever read on the Internet.[/quote]

I completely agree. Keep it simple stupid and work your ass off![/quote]

I don’t want to be that guy but if you agree that’s the best way, why aren’t you doing it?

[quote]dagill2 wrote:

[quote]sweet-t wrote:

[quote]Wyfaggro wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:

Pick any routine, follow it with violent intensity, and you will get results.[/quote]

This is one of the wisest things you will ever read on the Internet.[/quote]

I completely agree. Keep it simple stupid and work your ass off![/quote]

I don’t want to be that guy but if you agree that’s the best way, why aren’t you doing it?
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Oh, I’m giving it everything that I have.

These bits of information from the experienced will only make me better. So far I see the need to focus less on the details and push. My routine is heavy in the abs department, consider less moves, Texas method may be a wise choice for my next routine, go for low impact and high reps one day, a link to a helpful thread and other great stuff. All useful and precisely why I started the thread.

Probably obvious to most here but good stuff for a beginner.

[quote]sweet-t wrote:
Oh, I’m giving it everything that I have.

These bits of information from the experienced will only make me better. So far I see the need to focus less on the details and push. My routine is heavy in the abs department, consider less moves, Texas method may be a wise choice for my next routine, go for low impact and high reps one day, a link to a helpful thread and other great stuff. All useful and precisely why I started the thread.

Probably obvious to most here but good stuff for a beginner.
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I’m not questioning your work ethic for a second, my point is that while all the things you listed above are undoubtedly useful, trying to factor all of them into your training is not “keeping it simple”.

Keeping it simple is picking a proven program, doing it as written with all the intensity and focus you can muster, it will work.

Learning about the details of training and building a plan from the ground up is not simple, but will also work.

[quote]dagill2 wrote:
Keeping it simple is picking a proven program, doing it as written with all the intensity and focus you can muster, it will work.

Learning about the details of training and building a plan from the ground up is not simple, but will also work.[/quote]
This is a very important point.

I personally think it’s important to learn the details and understand how a lot of this stuff works, that way you have that knowledge to use in the future. But you can easily crash and burn if you try to apply that knowledge too soon, before you know enough.

My recommended course of action is to pick one reputable program and follow it to the letter for a long time. While doing that, go ahead and learn as much as you want about other programs and other training, but don’t change your training. Then, eventually, pick another prewritten reputable program that fits more in lines with how you want to train, based on what you learned, and follow that to the letter. And keep learning more and more.

And then eventually you’ll have a much better idea of what you want, how to train for it, how other people have trained for it, and can start designing parts of your own program.

If you try and apply the things you learn too soon, you’ll probably get sidetracked from your goals.

Also, the important rule of thumb from above… if something’s working for you, don’t change it (too much) until it stops working.

[quote]dagill2 wrote:

[quote]sweet-t wrote:
Oh, I’m giving it everything that I have.

These bits of information from the experienced will only make me better. So far I see the need to focus less on the details and push. My routine is heavy in the abs department, consider less moves, Texas method may be a wise choice for my next routine, go for low impact and high reps one day, a link to a helpful thread and other great stuff. All useful and precisely why I started the thread.

Probably obvious to most here but good stuff for a beginner.
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I’m not questioning your work ethic for a second, my point is that while all the things you listed above are undoubtedly useful, trying to factor all of them into your training is not “keeping it simple”.

Keeping it simple is picking a proven program, doing it as written with all the intensity and focus you can muster, it will work.

Learning about the details of training and building a plan from the ground up is not simple, but will also work.[/quote]

Sounds orderly and efficient. Fastest route from point a to point b. Thank you.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]dagill2 wrote:
Keeping it simple is picking a proven program, doing it as written with all the intensity and focus you can muster, it will work.

Learning about the details of training and building a plan from the ground up is not simple, but will also work.[/quote]
This is a very important point.

I personally think it’s important to learn the details and understand how a lot of this stuff works, that way you have that knowledge to use in the future. But you can easily crash and burn if you try to apply that knowledge too soon, before you know enough.

My recommended course of action is to pick one reputable program and follow it to the letter for a long time. While doing that, go ahead and learn as much as you want about other programs and other training, but don’t change your training. Then, eventually, pick another prewritten reputable program that fits more in lines with how you want to train, based on what you learned, and follow that to the letter. And keep learning more and more.

And then eventually you’ll have a much better idea of what you want, how to train for it, how other people have trained for it, and can start designing parts of your own program.

If you try and apply the things you learn too soon, you’ll probably get sidetracked from your goals.

Also, the important rule of thumb from above… if something’s working for you, don’t change it (too much) until it stops working.[/quote]

I feel that this is a road map to success for a beginner. Your time and expertise are profoundly appreciated.

I’ll keep doing what I’m doing until I plateau, start the Texas Method and follow this plan.

[quote]sweet-t wrote:
I feel that this is a road map to success for a beginner. Your time and expertise are profoundly appreciated.

I’ll keep doing what I’m doing until I plateau, start the Texas Method and follow this plan.
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I think your heads in the right place in that you’re willing and keen to learn. If you can keep the balance between this and keeping the simplicity and focus in your training, you will go far.