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Fathers and Fat Children

What do the T-Dads out there think about this? Are your kids leaner than the neighbours’ kids?

[center]Fathers responsible for fat children: Australia study[/center]
Mon May 7, 2007 6:06AM EDT

SYDNEY (Reuters Life!) - Fathers who play less of a role in child rearing are more likely to have overweight or obese offspring, Australian researchers said.

A study of almost 5,000 youngsters revealed that fathers who do not set clear limits for their kids are more likely to have heavier children, according to the Australian Associated Press.

Dads who did lay down boundaries generally had children with a lower body mass index, said the study by the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute and The Royal Children’s Hospital Melbourne.

Hospital specialist Melissa Wake said the study was the first to suggest that men could help prevent early childhood obesity.

The study found that a mother’s parenting style had little impact on whether a child was overweight or obese.

“Mothers are often blamed for their children’s obesity, but this study suggests that for more effective prevention perhaps we should focus on the whole family,” Wake told the AAP.

The study found that 40 percent of mothers and more than 60 percent of fathers polled were themselves overweight.

The research, to be presented at a pediatrics conference in Toronto this week, compared the BMIs of 4 and 5-year-olds with their how their parents behaved towards them.

Childhood obesity is growing in Australia, with more than 20 percent of preschool children either overweight or obese.

Interesting. Though I wouldn’t agree that a mother’s parenting has little impact on whether their kids will be overweight.

Doesn’t that mean that the mom controls the kid’s diet to a higher degree then, and also probably pampers the kid more because of it?

[quote]Miserere wrote:

The study found that 40 percent of mothers and more than 60 percent of fathers polled were themselves overweight.
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So fat people have fat kids?? Who knew?

I think that this is probably just another study that skews statistics. Of course father’s influence will have to do with the kids being overweight, but so will a mother’s.

I think that what they should have been looking at is the behavior of the kids who had strict parents. Were they more likely to be out for sports? Did they eat healthier? I doubt that the parents just yelled at the kids more to make them skinny.

Why do they need to conduct “studies” on this type of shiat?

It’s simple. Fat lazy parents will have fat lazy kids. Healthy active parents will have healthy active kids.

The world wastes so much money on bogus studies it makes me sick.

[quote]dre wrote:
Why do they need to conduct “studies” on this type of shiat?

It’s simple. Fat lazy parents will have fat lazy kids. Healthy active parents will have healthy active kids.

The world wastes so much money on bogus studies it makes me sick.[/quote]

Agreed. It is like people are searching really hard for places to put the blame…as long as it isn’t directly on them. If your kid is a fat ass, it is YOUR fault. Blaming the mother or the father won’t change what you are feeding them or the exercise habits you teach them. If play time is 5 hours in front of an X-box, you have fucked up parenting.

I think most of these problems would be solved if you had to get a license to have children after passing a few common sense tests…that and not allowing your daughters to get pregnant at 14.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
dre wrote:
Why do they need to conduct “studies” on this type of shiat?

It’s simple. Fat lazy parents will have fat lazy kids. Healthy active parents will have healthy active kids.

The world wastes so much money on bogus studies it makes me sick.

Agreed. It is like people are searching really hard for places to put the blame…as long as it isn’t directly on them. If your kid is a fat ass, it is YOUR fault. Blaming the mother or the father won’t change what you are feeding them or the exercise habits you teach them. If play time is 5 hours in front of an X-box, you have fucked up parenting.

I think most of these problems would be solved if you had to get a license to have children after passing a few common sense tests…that and not allowing your daughters to get pregnant at 14.[/quote]

Amen man, I agree 100%.

I have been saying for years that it’s messed up that you have to have a license to catch a fish. But you can have a kid as soon as you are physically able to.

That’s just not right.

Dre, for some time I have been thinking of publishing a journal for studies of this sort. It would be called The New England Journal of the Bloody Obvious.

I’m looking for editorial staff, if anybody’s interested.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
dre wrote:
Why do they need to conduct “studies” on this type of shiat?

It’s simple. Fat lazy parents will have fat lazy kids. Healthy active parents will have healthy active kids.

The world wastes so much money on bogus studies it makes me sick.

Agreed. It is like people are searching really hard for places to put the blame…as long as it isn’t directly on them. If your kid is a fat ass, it is YOUR fault. Blaming the mother or the father won’t change what you are feeding them or the exercise habits you teach them. If play time is 5 hours in front of an X-box, you have fucked up parenting.

I think most of these problems would be solved if you had to get a license to have children after passing a few common sense tests…that and not allowing your daughters to get pregnant at 14.[/quote]

It is all societies fault. I just need a $ 100,000 grant to fund a study to prove it.

Miserere and Zap, I think you two might be on to something. Consider me in!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
<<< I think most of these problems would be solved if you had to get a license to have children after passing a few common sense tests…that and not allowing your daughters to get pregnant at 14.[/quote]

There has to be parents around in the first place and ones who weren’t also pregnant at 14 would be a cool idea as well.

On the license thing, how would that work? Have to be married? If so how long? If not why not? Have to demonstrate ability to support? Ifo so how much? If not why not? Criminal charge for violation? How serious? State custody? Who pays?(guess?). Jail? What about the child then? Forced sterilization? Temporary sterilization until licensed? What if you slip through? What if it’s discovered that your child is now three, you’ve been a responsible parent, maybe even a spouse in a sound marriage, but no license? Same rules? What if the child is ten before you’re found out? Eleven? How long before forged licenses? What about fathers? Wasn’t me? DNA proves it was? What then? Perjury? Jail?

Can o worms?

This society can only function (I didn’t really just say function did I?) when people do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do. In other words it’s been a nice run, but the sun is setting on this country.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
<<< I think most of these problems would be solved if you had to get a license to have children after passing a few common sense tests…that and not allowing your daughters to get pregnant at 14.

There has to be parents around in the first place and ones who weren’t also pregnant at 14 would be a cool idea as well.

On the license thing, how would that work? Have to be married? If so how long? If not why not? Have to demonstrate ability to support? If not why not? Criminal charge for violation? How serious? State custody? Who pays?(guess?). Jail? What about the child then? Forced sterilization? Temporary sterilization until licensed? What if you slip through? What if it’s discovered that your child is now three, you’ve been a responsible parent, maybe even a spouse in a sound marriage, but no license? Same rules? What if the child is ten before you’re found out? Eleven? How long before forged licenses? What about fathers? Wasn’t me? DNA proves it was? What then? Perjury? Jail?

Can o worms?

This society can only function (I didn’t really just say function did I?) when people do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do. In other words it’s been a nice run, but the sun is setting on this country.[/quote]

How about if you’re a shitty parent your punished by having a shitty kid.

[quote]tveddy wrote:
How about if you’re a shitty parent your punished by having a shitty kid.
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LOL. Seriously, like really hard. That was awesome.

[quote]tveddy wrote:
<<< How about if you’re a shitty parent your punished by having a shitty kid.
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The problem is the rest of society is punished by their shitty kids. Gangs, drugs, crime, welfare bills etc, and eventually more shitty kids with more of the same. That’s not even to mention the burden on the deathcare system by preventably unhealthy kids who then become preventably unhealthy adults. I could go on, but I have a feeling I’m already gonna be sorry I started in this thread at all.

I was raised mostly by my mom but when I saw my dad it was at his parents’ house 'cause he lived with them. My mom kept me on a basic, healthy diet, but my grandma kept feeding me shit, and I was really overweight as a kid. All my dad did about it was yell at me and cuss me out for eating the crap I ate (even though it was really the only thing we had and that’s what my grandma encouraged me to eat.) He never helped me with my weight but I guess felt that if he yelled enough it would sink in. I didn’t do anything about my weight 'til I was 13 and had great results and my dad kinda changed from there. I’m not blaming aby of them for it but that’s just my experience

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
tveddy wrote:
<<< How about if you’re a shitty parent your punished by having a shitty kid.

The problem is the rest of society is punished by their shitty kids. Gangs, drugs, crime, welfare bills etc, and eventually more shitty kids with more of the same. That’s not even to mention the burden on the deathcare system by preventably unhealthy kids who then become preventably unhealthy adults. I could go on, but I have a feeling I’m already gonna be sorry I started in this thread at all.[/quote]

I agree 100% about the rest of us being punished for parents not raising their kids correctly. But really, there is nothing we can do.

I do like the idea of forced sterilization though. Everyone would need to pass some tests proving they are competent enough to procreate.

Obviously I would never support anything like that because I think the Government has too much control over us already. But it is a great idea.

You know what else is a great idea. Free wings n’ beer Fridays. If only I were in charge of the free world… monkey butlers for all!

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
tveddy wrote:
<<< How about if you’re a shitty parent your punished by having a shitty kid.

The problem is the rest of society is punished by their shitty kids. Gangs, drugs, crime, welfare bills etc, and eventually more shitty kids with more of the same. That’s not even to mention the burden on the deathcare system by preventably unhealthy kids who then become preventably unhealthy adults. I could go on, but I have a feeling I’m already gonna be sorry I started in this thread at all.[/quote]

Ok, so we’re back to a liscence or something again. You like to argue.