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Fat Loss Info for My GF?


#1

Hi, I have a question.

So me and my GF train together and I have a question I want to ask for her. So we are pretty hardcore in the gym and with our diets. I can pretty much manipulate my physique w/ in reason any way I want pretty decently considering I am and always have been drug free. My GF on the other hand cannot. We lift every other day and do cardio in between we count our macros weigh our food and diet pretty clean- tho she does like a glass or two of wine every now and again lol. She has a lot of muscle mass and is fairly strong (which I absolutely love) but unfortunately she has a layer of BF covering it all and we just cant seem to eliminate it. What’s weird is that even though the scale and BF%'s do not change much, in pics (we chart our progress when we try different things) you can see differences so what we are trying is having some effect but the numbers don’t change hardly at all. Bottom line she is 5’8" 175-180lbs. at roughly 20-22%BF. she would like to get to between 145-155 and at that weight she’d look pretty big and solid. She has pretty muscular thighs so she may even be good at 155-160 IMO. I mean we are not looking for competition BF #s here just to be clear. She takes in about 1200 to 1500 cals a day at 50p/30c/20f. we do a full body split EOD with cardio on non weight days. 4 sets 6-10 reps big movements with some iso movements. Any suggestions on how she can lower that BF%? she is open to anything i.e. a different diet, different training program, supps, what ever has worked for any of you. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!! :slight_smile:


#2

I am sure @anon71262119 will have much more insight here but, this sounds inadequate to me for a 175 lbs person.
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#3

I think something is off. For someone to maintain that size and activity level, no way those are the calorie numbers for a sustained period of time. Also, 50% protein would be very hard to achieve day in and day out.


#4

thanks for the reply but she tracks her food on myfitness pal


#5

she does. she tracks her food on myfitness pal. she has like 1 egg and egg whites and a slice of turkey bacon in morn then a shake w fruit and almond milk then lean turkey and veggies for lunch then either chx and white rice or a BP and some olive oil for dinner then a shake b4 bed with water. that’s basically a rough sample of her daily meals give or take.


#6

I am not doubting the amount. I am saying it’s not enough food. And IMO not near enough protein.


#7

ah ok cool. so like what 1800 to 2000 cals and like 60% protein?


#8

I think that range would be better, closer to 2000 than 1800. Why so high protein? I think 30% protein would be plenty.


#9

I personally thought a 40p/40c/20f would be the best. but you think perhaps 2k cals at a 30p/50c/20f? I mean I give up trying to fig her macros out I know what works for me but after so much trial and error I just don’t know what would be the best macro split for her.


#10

Maybe 1800-2100 calories depending on how active of a day it is.

If you want to go the high protein route I’m thinking between 170-200g protein, 75g fat, the rest carbs (so anywhere between 60-170g carbs).

Another variant would be 35% carbs, 35% protein, 30% fat, so, 185g carbs, 185g protein, 70g fat.


#11

I don’t think he wrote out grams, but percentage split.


#12

cool. thanks so much for the reply. ive kinda always felt she should eat more tho the macro split I didn’t know. but its always tuff to tell someone who wants to shead BF to eat more lol even tho I kinda knew it. thanks!!


#13

Yes! i see that now. My bad! I ate more than 1200 calories for breakfast :rofl:


#14

I’m thinking the glasses of wine aren’t necessarily helping.


#15

I made the same mistake myself first but the grams didn’t add up to the calories.


#16

I agree whole heartedly but its not an everyday thing and when she does its only a glass or two. not much I can do there she likes what she likes and you have to enjoy life too I guess. shes a great girl and I like when shes happy so I’m not gonna rain on her very few if not only vice lol.


#17

Hi there t_sizz.

@ChickenLittle, thanks for the tag.

I’m agreeing with @antiquity, and CL here.

@ Diet in a muscular woman who is 5’8"? Please read the conversation here, including analysis and advice from @mertdawg, @BrickHead, @brute_fury, and me.

All of the observations apply. I think mertdawg’s plan is solid advice.


#18

That’s tough…all I can say is I personally would and have had a LOT of displeasure hearing diet or training advice from a significant other. To me its NOT COOL!!!

Not all women are like me, but personally my advice for a bf who wants his girl to lift would just to be supportive of whatever form of active lifestyle that makes her happy. Supportive, not a coach. Coaches and trainers have a place, I don’t think bfs or even gf’s should be each others coaches!

Lifting is not for everyone, and there are scads of ways to be healthy and active. I would direct her to websites ( like this one!) where she can learn on her own things that might work for her. Or she can find fellow women who she can feel comfortable talking to and asking advice.

Any man who has tried ( and failed ) to direct or be some kind of coach for my own health and fitness goals …it was NOT appreciated on my part!!! AT ALL. They may have had good intentions however for me its entirely too personal for a significant other to tell me to do and in a way crosses the line.

Advice from outsiders-yes. From a boyfriend- HELL NO. Be crystal clear that your girl requests you to do this before offering a meal plan, training program, etc. It can be quite offensive if she is not on board with this!

I also think the best way for her to succeed in a lifestyle change is for her to go for it on her own. Give resources and be supportive!! Encourage and root her on…but be very careful pushing other things!

EDIT: I see you listed that she is open to suggestions …I just want to advocate for her looking on her own!! I’d be pissed if a bf shared stuff on my behalf ! Not that you have bad intentions, just be careful! Men sometimes do not understand this!


#19

I can see how a significant other trying to provide advice to be helpful would be construed as them judging you in a sense, but its so frustrating from our perspective. I have had multiple girlfriends who would rather listen to some hack “trainer” at a local chain gym who looks like a bag of ass themselves instead of me who knows what I’m talking about. Taking their word as gospel and disregarding my actual practical knowledge. For that reason I know to just stay out of it


#20

Always: calorie deficit and prioritize protein intake of other food sources.

Just count calorie intake, and make sure to get at least 1g protein per lbs body weight to not lose muscles.

500-1000kcal deficit per day, there is no magic in losing fat, it is only about the diet.