[quote]skohcl wrote:
So it’s more like 15g fat per 60g protein? Still kinda fatty… I have a friend who could slaughter me one of his grass-fed cowzers, but I’m not sure I’d want that much beef, maybe 1/2 cow or 1/4, but that’s still alot of beef. And I’ve never had grass-fed so I’d have to try it to see if I like it before I go out and spend $200 or so on more than I could eat in 2-3 months, hah!
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Yeah, it’s a good idea to see if you like the taste of grass-fed beef before ordering a slab. Not everyone does. I happen to love it. I actually feel better when I eat it. I don;t even go out to restaurants any more because the commercial stuff is filled with pesticides, corn-fed, etc., etc.
There is a fast-food chain (finally) that sells only grass-fed organic hamburgers along with veggie burgers, salads, milk-shakes etc. One just opened up where I live and it was extremely good (though mot quite as good as homemade). It’s called Elevation Burger and the hamburgers were great.
[quote]HG Thrower wrote:
If you are worried about getting too little fat, why go to all the trouble to dig out all the visible fat? Also, unless you are doing some kind of contest prep, you are WAY overthinking things. Find some average values for grass-fed organic beef, adjust your portions based on your progress.[/quote]
I know what I wrote was a little counter-intuitive but when I am on a food plan with very specific macros co-ordinated with workouts – in order to ensure the macros are as precise as possible – I try to do things like get rid of all the fat on meat so I know pretty much how much fat I am actually consuming.
So if I cut away all the visible fat from meat that is far leaner than the USDA meat but use the USDA measurements – I will count that I consumed 6 grams of fat instead of (say) the actual 2 grams. So if it is a meal at which I am supposed to consume 15 grams of fat – I will add 9 grams of fat from something else to the meal. 6+9 = 15
But if I am only getting 2 grams of fat from the beef when I think it is 6, I will be consuming 2+9 = 11 grams of fat. So I will be short 4 grams of fat for that meal – and given that I eat a lot of meat generally, that accumulates to quite a shortfall over the day and over the week (same problem with pork.)
I know I am being obsessive but if I am not precise and weigh and measure everything == I start getting really sloppy and start consuming way too much. It is the only way I am able to stay disciplined. But if I am under-eating the amount of fat I need I start developing cravings that become hard for me to control – as well as not getting all the nutrition I need.
I am not doing a contest prep – I am coming back from 3 years of a string of medical issues which led to a fair bit of muscle loss as well as weight gain (from long term steroid use – drove me crazy.) I am having a hard time getting back on track. It’s not as “effortless” as it used to be.
So I hope that explains it sufficiently enough that I don’t seem completely bonkers