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Fat Fighters That Really Work

I found this article in the Sunday newspaper. I?m not promoting any of these?just passing along the info.

EGCG: an antioxidant in green tea. Increases metabolism to burn calories, kills fat cells and blocks formation of new ones. What to take: a green tea extract pill before meals for a total daily dose of 270mg ? 325mg of EGCG

CLA: can melt body fat and build muscle without calorie counting or exercise. What to take: 1.7g, twice a day. The articles references Tonalin CLA: http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=tonalin+cla&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

HCA: hydroxycitric acid. Derived from a tropical fruit, quadrupled weight loss in an 8-week moderate diet. What to take: 1500mg, three times a day, 30 minutes before meals. The article references Super CitriMax:
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=Super+CitriMax&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

Chromium: targets the loss of fat instead of muscle. What to take: for weight loss, 200mg, three times a day of chromium bound to niacin(ChromeMate) or chromium picolinate or histidinate. For maintenance, take 200 mcg a day.
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=ChromeMate&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

Starch Blockers: cut absorption of carbs. The article references CarbEase or brands with the ingredient Phase 2. Follow label directions.

Here’s a crazy fat fighter that some people say works: Exersize More, Eat Less.

Fedor is kind of fat but I doubt anyone thinks he doesn’t work hard.

[quote]PRBogey wrote:
I found this article in the Sunday newspaper. I?m not promoting any of these?just passing along the info.
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Got any more shit to pass around? In light of what you just posted, you need to read A LOT more before you post anything else that is supplement related.

[quote]fireplug52 wrote:
Fedor is kind of fat but I doubt anyone thinks he doesn’t work hard.[/quote]

LOL, I really thought this was going to be about fighters, who are fat and still work hard.

EGCG and HOT-ROX Extreme are excellent ‘Fat Fighters’ for healthy people. The others? Not so much.

LOL. I had 2 lady’s come into GNC today with that fucking article and had me explain to them what the the hell each one of those supplements were. And believe me these were the sketchiest, most annoying women I had ever met in my life. And you should see the lady who wrote that article. She definitely doesn’t follow her own recommendations.

But as far as I know that stuff does work. Not as well as exercise and diet of course.

[quote]PRBogey wrote:
I found this article in the Sunday newspaper. I?m not promoting any of these?just passing along the info.

EGCG: an antioxidant in green tea. Increases metabolism to burn calories, kills fat cells and blocks formation of new ones. What to take: a green tea extract pill before meals for a total daily dose of 270mg ? 325mg of EGCG

CLA: can melt body fat and build muscle without calorie counting or exercise. What to take: 1.7g, twice a day. The articles references Tonalin CLA: http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=tonalin+cla&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

HCA: hydroxycitric acid. Derived from a tropical fruit, quadrupled weight loss in an 8-week moderate diet. What to take: 1500mg, three times a day, 30 minutes before meals. The article references Super CitriMax:
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=Super+CitriMax&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

Chromium: targets the loss of fat instead of muscle. What to take: for weight loss, 200mg, three times a day of chromium bound to niacin(ChromeMate) or chromium picolinate or histidinate. For maintenance, take 200 mcg a day.
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=ChromeMate&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

Starch Blockers: cut absorption of carbs. The article references CarbEase or brands with the ingredient Phase 2. Follow label directions.
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Chromium picolinate which is typically used for weight loss as been shown to cause genetic mutations and sterility in fruit flys. Personally I would be careful adding too much of this into my diet

[quote]needinghelp wrote:
PRBogey wrote:
I found this article in the Sunday newspaper. I?m not promoting any of these?just passing along the info.

EGCG: an antioxidant in green tea. Increases metabolism to burn calories, kills fat cells and blocks formation of new ones. What to take: a green tea extract pill before meals for a total daily dose of 270mg ? 325mg of EGCG

CLA: can melt body fat and build muscle without calorie counting or exercise. What to take: 1.7g, twice a day. The articles references Tonalin CLA: http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=tonalin+cla&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

HCA: hydroxycitric acid. Derived from a tropical fruit, quadrupled weight loss in an 8-week moderate diet. What to take: 1500mg, three times a day, 30 minutes before meals. The article references Super CitriMax:
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=Super+CitriMax&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

Chromium: targets the loss of fat instead of muscle. What to take: for weight loss, 200mg, three times a day of chromium bound to niacin(ChromeMate) or chromium picolinate or histidinate. For maintenance, take 200 mcg a day.
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=web&cs=utf8&q=ChromeMate&rys=0&itag=crv&_sb_lang=pref

Starch Blockers: cut absorption of carbs. The article references CarbEase or brands with the ingredient Phase 2. Follow label directions.

Chromium picolinate which is typically used for weight loss as been shown to cause genetic mutations and sterility in fruit flys. Personally I would be careful adding too much of this into my diet[/quote]

I agree, less is more. And hydroxycitric acid is a load of bullcrap…

Some of these may work in some limited fashion. However they can only help if you’re already eating and exercising well.

Personally I thought CLA was the latest and the greatest when I first used it almost two years ago. But in retrospect, after reading a lot more about it, I doubt it has noticable “fat loss” properties, it may very well help keep a lean body composition when eating well and trying to gain size (I remember an article on this site reccommending its use to decrease fat gains while bulking).

Chromium also as far as I know does nothing except increase insulin sensitivity, thus possibly keeping blood sugar levels more stable , but I have tried supplementing with it and did not notice any specific results. Also give the information already mentioned on this thread regarding Chromium I have no inclination to ever use this supplement again.

Carb blockers containing Phase 2 (phaseolamine) theoretically might work due to their inhibiting of the enzyme alpha-amylase in your digestion system, this should reduce the amount of sugar in your bloodstream stemming from carbs. However I think they probably don’t work as well as advertised, and often give people a false sense of security, which in turn causes them to be less strict about their diet. They might have some effect, making a low-carb diet even “more low-carb”, but that’s it I think.

The green tea extract is probably healthy in some ways (antioxidant?), but I wouldn’t expect it to start killing all your fat cells…

If you really want to “fight fat”, you should exercise well, stay away from high GI carbs, and eat a lot of healthy fats (fish oil, flax seed oil, olive oil, and perhaps CLA).

I am planning to get leaner before the summer, and I intend on keeping up my high consumption of fish oils and flax seed oil. And the only things I think I’ll add would be HOT-ROX (which I admit I am excited to try), and probably I’ll start taking CLA again, as while using (and eating/exercising rather well) I noticed a positive change in my physique after a few weeks.

I think the title of this article “Fat Fighters that Really Work” is quite misleading – because obviously they’re not going to do your work for you. You want to get lean? You’ve got to work.

I think the title of this article “Fat Fighters that Really Work” is quite misleading – because obviously they’re not going to do your work for you. You want to get lean? You’ve got to work.[/quote]

I agree…even though I submitted it. I was using the title I saw in the newspaper. The article was titled “5 Fat Fighters That Really Work” It wasn’t anything I came up.

steinnes, thanks for your thoughts. PRBogey

PRBogey: no problem :slight_smile: … And yeah I figured the name came from the newspaper article (I used to work at a newspaper) … luring titles, etc :wink: