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Fat Burners vs. Eating Less

When cutting what makes a fat burner better to use than simply eating that much less food?
If the burner will help you get rid of an extra 40 calories a day (I’m not sure if this is true just making it up for examples sake) why not just eat 40 calories less? Am I missing something?

The good fat burners don’t just burn calories in the literal sense, they help to convert the T4 thyroid hormone into highly active T3, and they also help boost your metabolism in general.

It’s not like you take the pills, and the chicken salad you had at 3 o’clock gets burned off.

Personally, the suppressed appetite & cravings as well as the energy boost alone make HOT-ROX worth it.

I don’t know how many extra calories you burn with it, but a slight increase in overall body temperature and metabolism can probably help a fair amount.

Does anyone know if fat burners aside from HOT-ROX (I currently have scorch remix and lipo6) help boost thyroid function?
Also, is there any specific purpose for the herbal roots some include?

Thanks for the help.

[quote]P1 wrote:
Does anyone know if fat burners aside from HOT-ROX (I currently have scorch remix and lipo6) help boost thyroid function?
Also, is there any specific purpose for the herbal roots some include?

Thanks for the help.[/quote]

Mx-LS7 works very well.

According to some of the research I’ve done, even the best fat burners on the planet wont burn more than 100 - 200 cals a day depending on how well you respond.

This fairly signifigant if you have burn an extra half pound a week of solid fat.

HOT-ROX Extreme has a couple of other things going for it than just its metabolism enchancing properties, namely the Colforsin and the appetite supression. Keeping muscle is just as important as losing fat.

[quote]P1 wrote:
When cutting what makes a fat burner better to use than simply eating that much less food?
If the burner will help you get rid of an extra 40 calories a day (I’m not sure if this is true just making it up for examples sake) why not just eat 40 calories less? Am I missing something?
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You are not missing something.

Most fat burners work in several ways:

  1. Appetitive suppression

  2. Increased energy

  3. Increased metabolism or lipolysis

Even though they are called fat burners the fat burning directly from taking the pills is very small. Appetite suppression can help if you have trouble in that area.

The real benefit I have found is that when cutting calories it helps to give you an energy boost when needed for lifting or cardio. Cheap caffeine pills can work here also, but are not as powerful. The combined effect of 1-3 can be really powerful for some people, especially if their main problem is eating too much and the product suppresses appetite effectively.

Having a dependence on these for calorie control though sets one up for gaining all the weight back. Individuals vary greatly in how they respond to these products and how quickly they develop tolerance.

I rarely take fat burners, but I have had an experience when I tried the minimum dose before (not HOT-ROX) and had unbelievable energy and was flying high. I thought I was taking a street drug, then by the end of the bottle I was taking the maximum dose and they seemed like sugar pills.

If you do not need help on 1 or 2, and have a lot of weight to lose then #3 really only comes into play for the last one or two stubborn pounds you need to look ripped or if you hit a plateau. These products should be cycled and not used continuously to avoid stress to adrenal glands.

Some products cause less adrenal stress than others, and some people cycle between products with different mechanisms versus just taking a break from fat burners. Personally I would never take a fat burner for more than 2-3 months without taking a couple months off, even if the product claims it can be taken indefinitely without adrenal fatigue.

IMHO the EC stack is still the gold standard to which all other fat burners are still compared. HOT-ROX is a well respected product even on sites other than T-Nation. The fat burner market is huge and all the products are expensive and seem to cost about the same.

I have a question related to this thread…I just saw this drink in the store called Enviga. It is green tea extracts with caffeine and says it increases cals burned by 60-100. Does using a product with caffeine and stuff regularly make it not effective and make you sluggish then when you don’t have it?

Quality fat burners will increase the % of weight lost in terms of fat and decrease muscle catabolism(spare muscle tissue while dieting). A good fat burner will also affect numerous pathways such as hormones(thyroid, cortisol, etc.) and the CNS as well as provide energy to make it through the day/tough workouts/cardio without too much lethargy from a reduced calorie diet.

So to answer your question, I would say Fat burners + Eating less is better than both seperately.