[quote]rg73 wrote:
Actually, thousands of years ago and before even Christianity arose
Why did God wait so long before deciding to reveal the true way to everyone? Sounds kind of arbitrary to me.
people voluntarily underwent castration so as to avoid sexual immorality.
The hell they did. I mean, yeah, there’s always been some nutter cults. The Galli, Christian followers of Origen, Heaven’s Gate. But, by and large, the majority of eunuchs in history were made. The Chinese would forcibly castrate young boys (usually the kids of defeated peoples in war) to make their legions of eunuch beauracrats and soldiers. Then there’s the eunuch harem guards in the Islamic world. Again, forced nutting.
These people were called eunuchs.
Or bitch boys.
Their intentions were good but their means of attaining physical purity was shunned by Jesus Christ.
I’m pretty sure there’s no direct quotes in the Bible from Jesus regarding cutting your own sack.
The body is the temple of the soul - it is not meant to be desecrated or mangled.
Can you then explain the Inquisition which specialized in the descrating and mangling of bodies?
Humans experience the world with sensory perception through their God-designed physical organs, but to delve with the physical organs in practices that estrange the soul from God swiftly leads to spritual decay.
Huh? Like masturbation or what?
Fasting (when practiced for spiritual purification) ignites the flame of God within.
It sounds like you’re starving God’s temple.
You took a simple concept and magnified it to the extreme.
What’s simple with these fictions you believe in? A goddamn Borges novel makes more sense compared to the magical realism you’re peddling.
Quit being such a drama queen.
Didn’t Jesus say some shit about not calling people names or something?
A man spiritually-centered on God with a diligent will to fight temptation does well by keeping his lust under control.
I guess. But you’re a mirror image of God right? So God has lust too. And if that’s a bad thing, and he’s all omnipotent and shit, then why didn’t he just get rid of lust in himself and humans? And why make lust necessary to procreate? I don’t get it. That’s some weird shit.
Should he sin, he repents to fight with greater ferocity during future successive waves of temptation…
Or he can jerk off. Works for me.
Fasting is a therapeutic tool that the Orthodox Christian Church has maintained since the time of Jesus Christ
There wasn’t even an Orthodox Christian Church then. There wasn’t even anything around that could be called Christian until at least a full century after the guy supposedly lived. I guess the Egyptian Orthodox claim to have started like 40 AD, but that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense since many of the canonical books of the New Testament hadn’t even been written yet. Anyway, the history is murky, we can admit that. So the OCC practiced whatever its been practicing (like lobster and protein shakes for Lent) for a long time, but not since, oh 100 A.D.
Needless to say, fasting is also practiced in many other religions for similar purposes.
And many people with no food who’d love for you to feed them instead of willfully not eating food to prove some religious point.
Excuse any simplification, but avoiding certain foods for brief periods of time is a natural phenomenon in our day & age.
I thought the problem was that people don’t avoid any food.
The obese avoid carbs for fat loss,
Some of them.
diabetics avoid sugar to regulate insulin,
Most.
those with high blood pressure avoid certain fats
Might be uneccessary.
, those with certain allergies avoid peanuts,
Don’t eat shit from South America.
those with liver malfunctions avoid synthetic/processed foods,
We should all avoid those.
How do you classify these individuals?
I wasn’t aware there was a pressing need to.
Do you think those who participate in juice-vegetable fasts for detoxification purposes are lunatics also?
Fuck yeah.
Anyways, avoiding sex because you don’t have testes doesn’t mean you’re automatically going to heaven.
Nope. You might be going on the space ship with Heaven’s Gate.
You strike me as a theological neophyte
Whatever, you don’t seem like you’ve got a good grip on it yourself.
so I won’t carry on much longer.
Do you promise?
Someone (perhaps you)
Yeah, again, pretty sure Jesus doesn’t approve of name calling, especially such puerile trash talk as you’re laying down.
might be a butt-ugly virgin who never got laid in life but always lusted over the act. Not being able to fulfill an act because an opportunity never existed does not qualify as meaning that the person is spiritually disciplined or pure or focused on God and the afterlife…
Kind of fucked to make a butt-ugly virgin who can never get laid, then tell him to not lust, then punish him when he does because he can never consumate a relationship. Sick fuckers.
I don’t need to become a eunuch to abstain from sexual immorality.
No, you just need to become one in order to not reproduce.
I know if I had been a eunuch, there are sins I would’ve been rendered incapable of committing.
Eunuchs get action too.
Nevertheless, I can repent and continue fighting hard to keep a clean slate from the point of sin onwards.
Start by not acting like a know it all and calling people names.
As noted above, people struggle by account of various conditions under the guidance of physicians in adhering to specific diets so as to maintain their physical welfare.
They sure do.
Likewise, Orthodox Christians struggle on account of the sinful condition of our souls in adhering to specific fasts under the guidance of Jesus Christ and our Church so as to maintain our spiritual welfare.
Alrighty then.
And consider this
Do I have to?
- if people go to such great lengths to save their bodies from that inevitable grave,
Do they though? Not the average American. Okinawans maybe.
it only makes sense that obedient & faithful Christians will go to great lengths to either b[/b] save their souls from eternal damnation, or b[/b] fulfill that which is commanded by God so as to enter into Paradise.
God said straight up not to eat lobster. So don’t go there until you’re ready to get down with the Kosher.
P.S. you appear to be the looney to me…
Yes, that’s what the schizos always say, isn’t it? I mean if you replaced your whole story that you believe with Ozzotron for Jesus and Morgotron for God, they’d lock you up. Ozzotron said not to eat meat for 40 days. Right. Morgotron does not want me to beat my meat. Right. Meet the men in the white coats. Mass delusion is still delusion, you know?
Anyway, enjoy your Lent orgy of protein shakes and lobster.[/quote]
Damn dude…what’s with the hard on for religion…
You must have spent a day researching and replying. (never mind the formatting)
Did you get diddled by the diocese?
Did a monk touch your monkey?
Tsk. Tsk. So much hate.
I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts that you only hate Christians and probably believe in something else. An athiest wouldn’t have so much anger.
Get a grip. Captain Kirk was a fictional character…there is no federation!
“Bones you have to save rg73.”
“Damnit Jim…I’m a doctor not a psychiatrist.”