I did a Test taper and then started Toremifene 2 weeks ago. I will stay on the Toremiphene for a total of 30 days.
I like it. No libido problems and I have not lost any gains in the gym in strength or size. Dropped a few pounds of bloat but that’s not an issue. I also used .5mg/A-Dex during my Test only cycle. No issue with sides at all.
A big plus for Toremifene is lack of mood swings. I’ve not experienced any at all.
Thanks for the reply Hedo,
So, I presume you thought it was better in comparison to nolva or clomid?
I’d also be really interested in hearing how your PCT works out as I’m considering tapering as a method of PCT. (say, 8 weeks prop, followed by a 4-6 week taper, followed by toermifene or nolva/clomid)Just curious, what did your taper look like?
Also, does anyone think that toremifene would be good/synergistic to combine with nolva/clomid (possible overkill?) or would that be pointless since they work in similar pathways anyway.??
I have only used Toremifene for PCT. Never used the Nolva/Clomid combo. I heard horrow stories about Clomid in particular so I tried to avoid it.
I did a Test only cycle. Started with Prop EOD 100mg. After 2 weeks I did 500mg. of Cyp (250X2Xwk) for 8 weeks. My taper consisted of 400mg in week 11, 300 in wk 12 and 200 in week 13. I waited 16 days after my last Cyp shot and then started PCT. PCT was 100mg. of Toremifene to start ED. Worked down to 90 in wk, 2, 75 in wk. 3. I will stay on the toremifene for 30 days total. I also used the A dex during my Test cycle.
Mid cycle my free test was 1900. Pre cycle I was at 700. I did this thru a longevity clinic under a doctors observation.
At age 44 I put on 15ibs. of solid muscle with no sides that I can see. Personal records were blown away and shattered and sense of well being thru the roof. Like I said no loss of anything so far during PCT including libido. I shed some water weight which I am happy to lose. I started at around 15-16bf%. I’d like to get it checked. I feel leaner but I am not concerned about it.
I went for the gains with the absolute minimum I needed to attain those gains. I’d use less Test if I got the same gains so I may try a “taper Up” for my next cycle.