Dr. Darden has long written about descending calorie diets. Few others have covered this subject.
It seems to reason, adaptive energy supply would be lower during dietary episodes. It is well known that the best way to lose weight is to restrict calories. Dr. Michael Mosley uses 800 daily caloric intake with good results. Thus, exercise modality would seem to matter little in regards of weight loss. Strict dietary methodology would matter a great deal more than a choice of exercise modality.
That being said, eccentric exercise might warrant extra attention due to less energy needed to perform such a methodology. Grist for the mill! However, much more should be explained to elucidate descending calorie diets to control hunger urges. Control of blood sugar most likely trumps any other dietary aspect including protein needs. Blood sugar can be improved with low glycemic carbohydrates, ie beans!
@PetkoCM depends if you are trying to lose a bit of weight, a lot of weight slowly or a lot of weight fast. If the first 2 I would suggest v.low calorie intake, as per 800 per day, is too low. Too hungry/weak to train, and thereby gain other health benefits. Hence the HIT question becomes irrelevant.
If the mission is the 3rd then a more significant reduction in calorie intake may be appropriate.
Slower weight losses allow more friendly strategies such as, time resticted eating, Int fasting, consumption of strategically good foods (veggies etc), Protein and other supplements …
Maybe, technically, if you squint. But in the real world, the odds are against it working long term. Even if you can stick with it, there is gonna be a rebound. A rebound Dennis Rodman would be proud of.
From your link,
“Very low-calorie diets (VLCDs), such as those supplying 800 calories or less, can lead to rapid weight loss, but may not be suitable for safe for everyone and they are not routinely recommended. Typically, these sorts of diets are only followed if you have an obesity-related complication which would benefit from such rapid weight loss.”
Which was my point about how much weight @PetkoCM wants/needs to lose. Unfortunately he cant be bothered to engage in his own thread so we dont know his circumstances.
I’d be shocked if they didn’t lose weight on an 800 cal diet. And yeah they would not need any exercise on top of that lol. I’m not sure if you would feel like exercising after few days of that, or even if you could to any useful degree.
Nobody with real life coaching experience prescribes any extreme diet or training pgm to a person who has not revealed their circumstances. Just because they have read an outlier approach from a study somewhere,
The DIRECT study showed weight loss occurs with an accompanying decrease in type 2 diabetes symptoms during the 8 weeks of duration.
Of course a bodybuilder’s diet would be different and most likely include a “kitchen sink” of drugs and supposedly beneficial supplements.
The original post was of “optimal weight loss.”
This is why I commented, not to be argumentative with regards what experienced trainers might recommend. If you ask 100 trainers a dietary question, you most likely get 100 different answers.