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#1

Hey guys i need some help where it counts…

I’ve trained for the past 6 years and its time to run my moter on NOS…
im 25 (currenlty)182 pounds or 83kg with low bodyfat count. my diet is excellent.

I’m being looked after by mt PT and will be starting a cycle of test enanth and (anabolicDN)dynabol.
id like to run it by you all before i jump in…

i just need the nod of approval…
for you to say that the plan itself will be fine to go ahead with.
all the rest will be looked after by my personal trainer and best friend.

oh and before you ask dynabol is much the same as deca

week1
test 500mg per week
dyna 300mg per week
nolvadex 20mg per day

week2
test 500
dyna 300
nolvadex 20

week3
test 500
dyna 300
nolvadex 20

week4
test 300
dyna 300
nolvadex 20

week5
test 300
dyna 300
nolvadex 20

week6
dyna 300
nolvadex 20

week7
dyna 300
nolvadex 20

week8
clomid 100
nolvadex 20

week9
clomid 50

week10
clomid 50

thanks
Blue steel
=:remember theres more to life than being really really redicously good looking :stuck_out_tongue:

#2

I would start by running the test for longer than the dynabol…trust me you’ll thank me later…and…use Nolva for your pct, and not even bother with the clomid…also…keep the nolva on hand for during the cycle, but only use it if needed…

#3

it would help if we knew exactly what dynabol is…if it is a shorter ester version of Deca Durabolin such as Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate then your cycle looks OK. Otherwise you should be running the test longer.

#4

Whatever version of deca that is, I think you need to be running it for a whole lot longer than just 7 short weeks if you want the full benefits of it. I’d shoot for no less than 12, but that’s just me.

#5

Definetly hold off on using the Nolvadex until you NEED to.

#6

The length of that cycle would be alright if you were running an 8 week cutter of say, Tren Acetate and Test Prop. But for the longer esters, you want to run it for at least 10 weeks. I also don’t like the idea of tapering off the test like that. I’m not sure you’ll find many people who recommend tapering these days. I’d go with something like this:

Weeks 1-10 ( or 12 ) Test Enanthate 500mgs per week.
Weeks 1-10 ( or 12 ) Deca 300mgs per week.

Keep Nolva on hand and use it if the need arrises. If not, use it for post cycle.

#7

[quote]Couture Labs Rep wrote:
The length of that cycle would be alright if you were running an 8 week cutter of say, Tren Acetate and Test Prop. But for the longer esters, you want to run it for at least 10 weeks. I also don’t like the idea of tapering off the test like that. I’m not sure you’ll find many people who recommend tapering these days. I’d go with something like this:

Weeks 1-10 ( or 12 ) Test Enanthate 500mgs per week.
Weeks 1-10 ( or 12 ) Deca 300mgs per week.

Keep Nolva on hand and use it if the need arrises. If not, use it for post cycle. [/quote]

Thanks for the advice it was muchly appreciated.
can i ask you one more thing?
both are intramuscular
can i take them both on the same day?
and if so would you reccommend say one in the deltoid and the other tigh?
is the same loaction a bad idea?

#8

thanks again…

Nolvadex you all seem sure it should only be used pct
just how much should i take and for how long?
i know it comes highly reccommended to run with after a cycle of anabolic DN/deca

i wanna be sure im in the clear.

thanks
blue steel

#9

you can take both, in the same syringe…it’ll cut down on your total # of shots…

as for the Nolva…keep it on hand during the cycle, if you notice any signs of gyno (itchy, sore nipples)…take some…like 20 - 40 mgs a day for a few days…(until the itchy feeling is gone)…as for pct…Nolva…40/40/20/20/20…these are per day amounts, for a week…
good luck…

#10

Run the test longer than the deca - by two weeks.

Extend the length of your cycle to 12 weeks (10 weeks with deca, 2 weeks without).

Start your PCT 2 weeks after your last injection of test.

During the cycle, keep nolva on hand in case you get boobies. I would recommend and AI such as adex @ .5mg eod.