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#1

...decide not to kill civilians. What the hell?!

http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/09/16/never-mind-2/

On a side note, this does go to show how retarded our enemies are. We really don't need to be afraid of them.

mike


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#7

â??The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.â??â??George Soros

Now do you gents begin to understand WHY Soros picked Obama?


#8

Push forgot:


#9

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:

…this does go to show how retarded our enemies are. We really don’t need to be afraid of them.

This shows they can plan a mission with precision and we need to be on guard.

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Protection from the above is not worth the destruction of our founding principles. You know where I was going.

mike


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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:

…this does go to show how retarded our enemies are. We really don’t need to be afraid of them.

This shows they can plan a mission with precision and we need to be on guard.

Protection from the above is not worth the destruction of our founding principles. You know where I was going.

mike

I do but I felt the compunction to be contrarian. You know you and I agree about our founding principles. You have no greater ally here in that arena. That doesn’t mean I don’t advocate the swift and certain punishment of our enemies.[/quote]

smiles Well, here’s to hoping one day we can enact punishment from Mike’s America as individual actors taking a trip overseas to dispense some justice with a few friends. You okay with despots and genocidal regimes referring to you as a terrorist?

mike


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[quote]Mikeyali wrote:
…decide not to kill civilians. What the hell?!

http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/09/16/never-mind-2/

On a side note, this does go to show how retarded our enemies are. We really don’t need to be afraid of them.

mike[/quote]

You might want to send this to Orion in the current 9/11 thread. He might answer that they did not fire only because a better opportunity to kill more civilians was at hand.


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[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
Mikeyali wrote:
…decide not to kill civilians. What the hell?!

http://www.neptunuslex.com/2009/09/16/never-mind-2/

On a side note, this does go to show how retarded our enemies are. We really don’t need to be afraid of them.

mike

You might want to send this to Orion in the current 9/11 thread. He might answer that they did not fire only because a better opportunity to kill more civilians was at hand.[/quote]

No, next time they will not see it and kill the child.

And that ignores the fact that those people are “enemies” because American troops invaded their country.


#15

http://cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm

Abstract. What causes the documented high level of civilian casualties – 3,000 - 3,400 civilian deaths – in the U.S. air war upon Afghanistan? The explanation is the apparent willingness of U.S. military strategists to fire missiles into and drop bombs upon, heavily populated areas of Afghanistan.

A legacy of the ten years of civil war during the 80s is that many military garrisons and facilities are located in urban areas where the Soviet-backed government had placed them since they could be better protected there from attacks by the rural mujahideen. Successor Afghan governments inherited these emplacements.

To suggest that the Taliban used ‘human shields’ is more revealing of the historical amnesia and racism of those making such claims, than of Taliban deeds. Anti-aircraft emplacements will naturally be placed close by ministries, garrisons, communications facilities, etc… A heavy bombing onslaught must necessarily result in substantial numbers of civilian casualties simply by virtue of proximity to ‘military targets’, a reality exacerbated by the admitted occasional poor targeting, human error, equipment malfunction, and the irresponsible use of out-dated Soviet maps.

But, the critical element remains the very low value put upon Afghan civilian lives by U.S. military planners and the political elite, as clearly revealed by U.S. willingness to bomb heavily populated regions. Current Afghan civilian lives must and will be sacrificed in order to [possibly] protect future American lives. Actions speak, and words [can] obscure: the hollowness of pious pronouncements by Rumsfeld, Rice and the compliant corporate media about the great care taken to minimize collateral damage is clear for all to see.

Other U.S. bombing targets hit are impossible to ‘explain’ in terms other than the U.S. seeking to inflict maximum pain upon Afghan society and perceived ‘enemies’: the targeted bombing of the Kajakai dam and other power stations, radio stations, the Kabul telephone exchange, the Al Jazeera Kabul office, trucks and buses filled with fleeing refugees, and the numerous attacks upon civilian trucks carrying fuel oil. Indeed, the bombing of Afghan civilian infrastructure parallels that of the Afghan civilian.

This dossier makes six major points. First, the U.S. bombing upon Afghanistan has been a low bombing intensity, high civilian casualty campaign [in both absolute terms and relative to other U.S. air campaigns]. Secondly, this has happened notwithstanding the far greater accuracy of the weapons because of U.S. military planners decisions to employ powerful weapons in populated regions and to bomb what are dubious military targets.

Thirdly, the U.S. mainstream corporate media has been derelict in its non-reporting of civilian casualties when ample evidence existed from foreign places that the U.S. air war upon Afghanistan was creating such casualties in large numbers. Fourthly, the decision by U.S. military planners to execute such a bombing campaign reveals and reflects the differential values they place upon Afghan and American lives.

Fifth, this report counters the dangerous notion that the United States can henceforth wage a war and only kill enemy combatants. Sixth, the U.S. bombing campaign has targeted numerous civilian facilities and the heavy use of cluster bombs, will have a lasting legacy born by one of the poorest, most desperate peoples of our world.

In sum, though not intended to be, the U.S. bombing campaign which began on the evening of October 7th, has been a war upon the people, the homes, the farms and the villages of Afghanistan, as well as upon the Taliban and Al Qaeda.


#16

depleted uranium…


#17

Just in case these pictures do not make it as long as your more patriotic ones you can find them here :

http://images.google.at/imgres?imgurl=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jHuooQTCYXc/STHHv6Jv5bI/AAAAAAAAD0U/KGEtOvVQ2VM/s400/uranium%2Bvictim1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://prisonerofjoy.blogspot.com/2008/11/victims-of-uranium-weapons-used-by.html&usg=__G1f22BpO5va_cc-UTlgUaiKsZIg=&h=300&w=400&sz=21&hl=de&start=7&um=1&tbnid=OVEyM_TPvSdDiM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dafghanistan%2Bvictims%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

American heroes, just doing their job.


#18

[quote]orion wrote:
http://cursor.org/stories/civilian_deaths.htm

Abstract. What causes the documented high level of civilian casualties – 3,000 - 3,400 civilian deaths – in the U.S. air war upon Afghanistan? The explanation is the apparent willingness of U.S. military strategists to fire missiles into and drop bombs upon, heavily populated areas of Afghanistan. [/quote]

George Soros should put an end to this war immediately! He could if he wanted to, you know.


#19

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
â??The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.â??â??George Soros

Now do you gents begin to understand WHY Soros picked Obama?[/quote]

You’re aware that the Canadian Free Press is not even remotely considered an unbiased news source. This article is nothing more than a smear job - it makes no mention of the good work that Soros has done through his humanitarian efforts.


#20

[quote]NinjaTreeFrog wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
�¢??The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.�¢??�¢??George Soros

Now do you gents begin to understand WHY Soros picked Obama?

You’re aware that the Canadian Free Press is not even remotely considered an unbiased news source. This article is nothing more than a smear job - it makes no mention of the good work that Soros has done through his humanitarian efforts.[/quote]

Did they make up the quotes?