-CONCEIT- You first cycle will show the biggest gains and is most important mainly, because your receptors arent clouded with toxins.
First time gains are better because your Receptors arent Dirty huh?
-CONCEIT- i would suggest something like an 8 week cycle, (staying on a monday/thursday interval with the shots. i.e. deca shot on mondays, test shot on thursdays) however with 10 mL vials you will have leftovers. the leftovers will be good for your next cycle when you can move up to a higher dose.
8 weeks with long acting esters? It takes 5 weeks for Enantate to reach a steady state and 6+ for Deca. Also is there magic in 8 weeks and that is why you would leave a little left over?
-CONCEIT- the advantage of a test/deca blend are beyond strength gains, and size gains. its one of the safest, cleanest
So being one of the cleanest, will it keep your receptors clean or at least cleaner?
-CONCEIT- and has one of the lowest tendancies for estrogen conversion.
Really? Test doesnt convert to estrogen at a high level?
-CONCEIT- next, popping dbol may give the “image” of being bigger, but its no better than a helium balloon. after you get of dbol your back down and no stronger. who in their right mind would spend their hard earned dollar on a drug that only allows them to keep 50% of their gains.
That?s why we use anti-estrogens with D-bol, not really needed for that low tendancy for test to convert though?
-CONCEIT- you can keep 86%, or BETTER, of your weight with a deca/test stack? and your strength only goes down MINIMALLY!!
86% huh, thats a pretty specific number, whered you get it.
-CONCEIT- dbol actually can throw you into a mild/deep depression and could actually be adverse when trying to get pumped to workout.
Did not know that - they have been lying to me and I have been lying to myself.
-CONCEIT- deca exerts its anabolic effects are two-fold. first of all it’s a good mediator for nitrogen retention. when nitrogen retention is high, in essence it means that the cells are taking up more nitrogen than they are releasing. a second factor is through estrogen. while deca’s rate of aromatization is considerably smaller than that of testosterone, it does convert to a particularly powerful form of estrogen. this has been noted to increase glycogen storage, growth hormone release and upgrade the androgen receptor in some tissues. thus, making you bigger, harder and stronger.
So Deca is Anabolic because of Nitrogen retention and Estrogen build-up? Interesting. But not much water retention huh?
-CONCEIT- for really shutting you down… thats a bunch of shit. its less likely to ceiling your natural test levels than the test you want to take anyway. its not a matter of shutting you down, you plan on taking hcg anyway, so you will be fine.
So Deca doesnt really shut you down? I really do not understand what you just said.
-CONCEIT- i knew there were some ignorant people in the steroid world, but never have i seen the level of ignorance and uneducation i have seen through all this.
Through all of what?
-CONCEIT- shut himself in the foot. its a liar. Everything you say
You arent really educated are you?
-CONCEIT- is an email I wrote to a good friend of mine who is playing professional football when he asked me about taking deca and getting tested
You must really know what you are talking about for someone to trust their profession on your advice. Im impressed.
-CONCEIT- The major drawback for competitive purposes is that in many cases nandrolone metabolites will be detectable in a drug screen for up to a year (or more) after use. This is clearly due to the form of administration. As discussed earlier in this book, esterified compounds have a high affinity to stay stored in fatty tissues.
Oh. I get it. You are 12 years old!!! You took this directly from a book and are trying to act like you wrote it. Sad. Very SAD!
-CONCEIT- norandrostenediol (50mg) and norandrostenedione (100mg). I have also had the opportunity to speak with an amateur bodybuilder recently, who was unexpectedly subject to a drug screen and now strongly supports the use of oral precursor hormones.
So you -wrote- this for your professional football -friend- many years ago?
-CONCEIT- He was using up to 3 grams norandrostenedione daily not very far from the date of the show, and to his amazement did not test positive for steroid use.
You also consult with Aspiring Professional Bodybuilders? You should be charging us for your time!
-CONCEIT- I still maintain my stance on oral steroids as being more harmful than any injectable steroid.
SO. Oxandrolone or Proviron are worse than Trenbolone?
This whole thing is a joke isnt it, TC are you playing with us? Who is Conceit really? I read his profile and almost ruptured my spleen. Guys some people dont know that you are kidding, so I felt I had to post. I try not to be mean, but I really do think this is a joke. isnt it?