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Epi, Test P, NPP, Mast E. Critique My Cycle


#1

Good morning to all the jacked and tanned brothers out there. Im looking for some honest thoughts about an upcoming cycle i have planned, right now im on a cut till mid January then plan to go maintenence calories till Feburary.13 where i will start to bump up my calories and start this cycle. I had another cycle planned but dont want to be on for 16+ weeks.
Here goes

1-2 EPISTANE 30MG ED
3-5 EPISTANE 45MG ED
1-9 MAST E 120MG EOD (420MG/WK)
1-10 NPP 130MG EOD (455MG/WK)
1-10 TEST P 100MG EOD (350MG/WK)
1-11 CABER .5MG 2X/WK
1-11 ADEX .5MG EOD
3-11 HCG 250IU 2X/WK

PCT
CLOMID 75/50/50/50/25
DAA

STATS
24 years old
2 test p/dbol cycles in the past
Bodyfat - 10% (when i finish this cut)
Weight - 170lbs (also after cut)
Hight - 5’ 7"

Max lifts
Bench - 305
Squat - 455
Deadlift - 505

If anybody would care to chime in and give better suggestions id appreciate it. Thanks bros


#2

Really, nobody?


#3

wondering why throw mast and npp in the same cycle
using DHT to prevent gyno ?


#4

Thats part of it, although i might need to up the dosage. The other reason is having a 19nor, dht derivitive, and low test should keep me lean and keep off more water. Ive also read they have a synergistic effect. If my diet is spot on and very clean (allowing 1 cheat meal per week) i feel i should have much less water retention as NPP is known to retain less water than deca… i also have more than enough winstrol depot and tabs on hand if anyone thinks it would be a much better idea but I really was hoping to use the epi as i have about 300 15mg caps chillin that i wouldnt mind using


#5

looks good except the mast, to me it is a waste of money and i would only use it for the dry look even when it comes to an anti estro it isint that great as aromasin


#6

same thought here
in my opinion, mast is only for athletic look…
stack it with npp is totally a waste


#7

Would the masteron not help with keeping me more lean and dry or at least increase vaculairity and lower SHGB, or just a waste? I’ve read a few cycle logs where mast was added in with npp and kickstarted with winstrol and had nice results. Have you ran this stack yourself? Im a very indecisive person and i gotta know my cycle is 100% perfected lol


#8

I am still planning my may cycle, and had similar thought, npp,test p, mast eod . Orals interact with one of my scripts.
How about npp, test p, winny eod.
100,100,50


#9

Ok so ill drop the mast and im going to run the epi for an extra week, its solved and simplified and ill use the mast when im doing a cutting cycle. Thank you for your help guys.


#10

I like it. I have no experience or suggestion on the epi though. I’d run the test at least a few days longer than the npp and really a week or two to have a better recovery and less issues coming off.

Keep the mast in my opinion- test mast npp is an amazing cycle; great feeling, mood, look, cleaness, etc. It’s not necessary if price is a concern though, but is a great compliment. I’d rather run npp/mast than tren unless I had a good reason.


#11

Money is no issue really. Lol now you got me going buddy! I have a great source with surprisingly good prices. (Already have everything+a bit) Maybe run the mast e and npp from weeks 1-10 and the test p from 1-12? Ive never ran epi myself but bought a few bottles before the ph ban (although epi is a designer steroid and not a ph) some people compare to the likes of winny. Decisions decisions. Thank God i got 2 months till i push the plunger. Thats the thing too, i was going to run tren ace but want to wait on that till i have more cycles under my belt.


#12

I like it!
Btw, why not mast p, is it because you already have the e?


#13

Yeah i have 2 10ml vials of mast e 200 and 1 vial mast p 100. I could use the mast prop to finish off the last 2 weeks. My diet is dialed in and im carb cycling leading into this cycle and will be staying lean, i think the mast will show. Im ready for it


#14

Hey dudes, Im just finishing up week 6 of this cycle and ive hit a plateau. Ive gone from 175 to 185 while staying lean but in the past 2 weeks the weight isnt coming. Im strong as a bull hitting PRs every week and calories are at 3500 with 45% carbs, 20% fats, and 35% protein but the scale isnt budging. Can anyone offer some advice on getting the scale to start moving again? I just upped my calories to 3800 but other than that idk