[quote]MikeManos wrote:
[quote]johnny k53 wrote:
Hi Guy’s I bought some epedrine 8mg’s a pill at the health food store.I took 24mg’s,that’s 3-pill’s and a cup of large coffee prior to my chest workout. I was doing bench a feeling strong.The eped and coffee made the weight’s feel lighter.I was 15min’s into the workout and doing my 2-rep heavy set,but i was starting to feel Stoned,(Scarry Feeling) I did my set and when i got up i felt like i was about to pass out.I cut the workout-off and went to the shower’s.
My question is,is that what epedrine doe's,or was that an O.D. type affect. I an sensitive to central nervious system stimulent's,but i didn't think the EC-stack was that powerful. I don't know if this is relevent,but im on Suboxone. thank's john[/quote]
Johnny from Canada, you brought some memories back with your purchase of ephedrine at a Canadian health food store. About a year and a half ago I bought the same 8 mg tabs in Montreal, and not realizing that ephedrine is no longer sold in the USA (at least not in that form), and importation itself is frowned upon, I succesfully brought back 10 bottles over the border and into the US (to try them as part of an ECA fat loss stack, respectively). An interesting trial run I had with those to say the least.
Anyway, here is my limited experience and advice:
Since I was using them as part of an EC stack (I skipped the aspirin based on forum advice), I took a 200 mg caffeine tab + three 8 mg ephedrine tabs 3-4 times a day for about two months (though I never will do that again, as the possible adrenal fatigue and crash was unforgivable). I can remember that my first dose gave me the same super-charged workout, minus the potential side effects that you mentioned, although my pulse rate definitely felt up. I thought that I was going to literally break some of the equipment, the workout was that good. As time went on however, that feeling slowly leveled off, and did less and less in terms of providing an insanely intense workout.
Fast forward to today, and here is what I learned and recommend from my experience:
(1) Personally, I’m not super sensitive to caffeine at all, but ephedrine and caffeine is a different animal for me. I may have gotten away with a lesser dose than 24 mg, so next time I suggest that you start with a single 8 mg tab only (with your coffee or caffeine tab), and see how you respond. Your sweet spot may be one or two tabs, and over time, you could up that to three or more (if need be).
(2) I used it for dieting, and as such I was taking 24 mg several (sometimes 4) times a day. It worked, and worked well, but the after effects were not worth it. In hindsight, I believe that I could have gotten the same results with a diet tweek here and there, though maybe it would have taken me a little while longer to achieve my aforementioned results. So while the EC fat loss stack is history for me, I may used it again ONLY for a preworkout boost, if I’m not working out too late in the day.
(3) Cycling ephedrine may be helpful as well, even if you are strictly using it as a workout stimulant (preferably with caffeine), so you never risk becoming desensitized to the dosing and frequency. For those that are sensitive to it, all the more reason; if you are going for an extra grueling workout or personal best in a lift, that may be the right occassion. (For me, I’m going to use a cautious approach and never use it more than twice a week for about a month or so, as that should suffice.)
Hope that helps, good luck with your regimen.
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Wow.Thank-you very much. I did 8mg’s the next day while doing tricep-extension’s. I got that same intimidating/scarry unmanageable feeling.According to our chemistry’s,at least for me,im super sensitive to that combination.Bro ive snorted Cocaine and not felt as compromised.Have you ever tried this Pre-workout suppluiment called:(ONE MORE REP) it’s speedy,but manageable. I am also 53,in good shape body and cardio,but i have a preexisting panic attack history.I think my using stimulent’s is deleterious to my health and sanity.Thank-you very much for your detailed and very informative knowledge of efedrine.You should be submitting your knowledge for a sticky??.Thank’s johnny