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Ephedra vs Ephedrine


#1

What is the difference if any between the two? Is there a diferent process when making them? I plan on cutting in a couple weeks and am not sure which to use since there are post on a few forums and wiki(I know not the best source) that have said that Ephedrine gave them acne.


#2

Ephedra is the plant from which Ephedrine, the fat burning compound, comes from. Think of the former as a bag of compounds of which contains Ephedrine and the latter as the compound you actually want for fat-burning.


#3

Thanks. Any idea why it may cause acne (Ephedrine)? Would either be better in terms of Appetite control?


#4

No idea why it causes acne in susceptible individuals, but I assure you this does not happen to everybody (in my experience, it doesn't even happen to a significant majority of people).

Maybe it could be through the transient insulin-resistant state that it puts you in, since I know many people are susceptible to insulin spikes and acne, but that is just conjecture on my part.

I would just go with Ephedrine. That is the compound that works for fat burning and does aid in appetite suppression. I do not know the other compounds in Ephedra and IMO if they are not needed I wouldn't use them.


#5

FYI, supposedly, L-Tyrosine magnifies the energy boost from Ephedrine. I think.

I'll have to find studies of dose-to-dose relationship, e.g. more L-Tyrosine with less Ephendrine.


#6

I was just looking into it briefly, and apparently it boosts ephedrine's effects via increased catecholamine production; which is kind of a weak argument IMO as it's just additive and not synergistic. Hopefully there is something fancier than that though (like Yohimbine's MAO inhibition or Green Tea's methyl-o-transferase inhibition; that's cool synergism).