I’m not too worried about the stimulatory effects. In fact it kind of makes me feel sick until I get used to it. Its good to know that the thermic effect does not wear off though. What about post ephedra though? Will my metabolism slow down after I cycle off? Also how anti-catabolic is ephedra? I’m lifting twice a day in short spurts to keep my muscle mass/metabolic rate up. I will not do cardio though… I know it works for some people but it does not work for me plus I’m a little worried about elevated heart rate while on this stuff. Thanks for the input T-Men!