Maybe, just maybe, we can be an industrialized society without being totally careless and having total disregard for the environment.
He isn’t talking about “us.” He’s talking about emerging, pre-industrial and industrializing countries, who are being pressured not to industrialize because it might be bad for the environment.
Exactly. If we want everyone in the world to have what we consider a middle class existence — enough to eat, a place to live, health care, and so forth — that requires an industrial, productive civilisation. That’s going to impact the environment. Until that impact becomes worse than the alternative of feeding, clothing, and housing the world, I choose the world.
Neph threw you a life preserver didn’t he?
There is also a difference between consumerism as a philosophy and feeding, clothing and housing the populace of the world.
However, Mr Kumba-Ya, please note that so far we have done a dismal job of “feeding the world”.
Do you really think all of our industrialization is really geared towards looking after the basic necessities of humanity?
Hahahahaha. Come on man, stop looking for extremes and simple but useless trite comparisons. Think a little deeper about the issues and say something useful for a change.
Do you really think industrialization which is occurring in now is being driven by a need to feed, cloth and shelter? Guess how the industrialization is happening, where the money is coming from and the types of products that will be built.
Shoot, I’m not even against development or industrialization, before you waste a bullet on that shot! I just don’t think you have even the first fucking clue about the topic you’ve started… as usual.
And yes, of course, I recognize that giving people jobs in our overseas factories is a great way to give them incomes so they can start to buy consumer products like the rest of the world.