[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Money/Power and good looks are only part of the equation. It’s how you make a woman FEEL that will determine if you get past the first minute of conversation or end up in the sack with her. Women respond to primarily to status, which is VERY subjective. Now, if the woman is a “nine” and subscribes to the “tribe” of “rich powerful debutantes”, then if you’re not from a rich family, you won’t get past hello. But if she’s somewhat grounded and open minded, then I think a man who can give her that “tingle”, be he rich or poor, handsome or ugly, has a chance.
I’ve noticed in my own career the women I tend to attract varies. When I was a lower paid electrician going through the apprenticeship and just starting out I was middle class, but I played rugby and and had a very powerful physique and some high status with my rugby team. So I was able to attract 8’s pretty consistently.
Then I got into the mortgage business and opened a few companies with the money I earned from that and I grew to a more upper class income/lifestyle. I drove a BMW and a Lexus, wore suits everyday, kicked ass making a lot of money with what was essentially my own business ( I set my own hours and didn’t “work FOR” anyone). I also lost a lot of muscle mass, but still kept my six pack. I was able to attract 9’s easily and even some 9.5’s. I looked pretty good and had high status and made a lot of money.
Then the market took a shit, I got divorced, lost A LOT of income/assets and was limping along with my financial obligations and income. Still had a lot of “social proof” from my more successful days, but the 9.5’s weren’t very easy to get anymore. I was able to attract one or two during those years, but it was back down to the 8’s for this guy.
Then the gov’t decided to yank my mortgage career out from under me with regulation changes and I was forced to start finding work wherever I could. So I started bartending and doing side electrical work. As a bartender, I was awesome - made 700 to a G a night and I was back to banging 9’s! It wasn’t “mortgage money”, but it was pretty good and I was able to leverage my STATUS to attract women. Being the bartender and “owning” that persona allowed me to appear to have a higher status than many of the customers who made FAR more money than I did. I was playing to their fantasies.
Then I went down to the gulf of Mexico, started working on oil rigs, made some money, but I wasn’t really “on shore” enough to go out and pull very consistently. It was pretty hit or miss most nights, and inconsistent with the quality (don’t worry, I didn’t bang any trolls).
Then I moved back to VA, got a really good electrical job which I leveraged into an even better electrical job working with critical power systems. I’m making some serious loot for an electrician (I’ll easily make more than 220K this year). So NOW, I’m an “upper class, blue collar” guy. I make more than many “upper class” and “successful” guys in my area. But I am an ELECTRICIAN. I get my hands dirty. I have to wake up at 4:45AM. I drive a truck with a company logo. So I’m back down to 8’s again.
Now that’s not saying that if I go to a wedding or “formal event” or something and clean up really nice I can’t attract a really attractive woman in the 9 range - I can. But it’s funny when I finally answer the question, “what do you do?” and I actually give them a straight answer, you can almost SEE the lights of attraction going out in their eyes… Like a balloon deflating - the spark just dies and literally NOTHING I do can rekindle it. It’s pretty interesting to me to see it because I have a pretty good understanding of social dynamics/women and it’s SOOOOO predictable. I mean I could have her laughing her ass off, touching me, giving me some serious interest and thinking to myself, “yeah, I got this”, but then the “occupational” question comes up. If I dodge the question and keep it playful, I can hold her interest for a bit longer and hopefully develop some rapport that isn’t just skin deep. But if I fail to “connect” with her on more than a superficial level and she learns that I have a blue collar career, she’s usually gone in less than five minutes. Like fucking clockwork. Now I’m talking about NINES in that scenario - most people don’t have the balls to even APPROACH a nine. But that’s not hard for me, what’s hard for me is to keep her interested once she finds out that I don’t fit into that little “box” she’s been building for herself since she became aware of her beauty and was told from a young age not to “waste” it.
8’s and 8.5’s are pretty consistent for me with my current situation, though. In fact, there’s a 7 that I’m really comfortable with, have a great time with and can just really relax and enjoy her company. Is she as “hawt” as some of the other women I know that I could choose to spend time with? Nope. But do I have a great time when I’m with her? Yup. She ain’t “perfect”, but I’ve had damn near perfect and it was kind of a pain in the ass most of the time and required a LOT of work to maintain. I work too many hours to worry about all that shit now. LOL
Sorry about the novel, but this is topic that I find very interesting.
Regarding the OP, I think it’s spot on in MOST cases. There are exceptions to every rule, of course, but generally speaking, Brick is spot on. Here’s the takeaway: if you want to attract beautiful woman, BECOME the guy that beautiful women are attracted to. You have to change YOURSELF, not figure out a way to change them. You can fool anyone for little bit, but what don’t come out in the wash, will come out in the rinse. And then, if you’ve lied, you are revealed to be the pathetic loser that you are. So don’t lie. Just become the most awesome version of you that you can.[/quote]
This is highly off topic, I know, but is becoming an Electrician a good trade?
I want to do something on the side to make more money, because I’m probably going to reach the cap on my current career soon for a non-managerial position and wanted to keep my options open.
Really don’t give a shit as to the “social stigma” of blue collar work from the ladies or anyone else. If I’m making bank, and I’m not stressed to shit, that’s all that matters.