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Enough With the Logs

Why does everyone feel the innate urge to start a log about the most trivial crap imaginable? I have no problems with the occassional fat-loss/new routine/pre-contest type logs, in moderation. But I hope that I speak for a number of readers when I say: I don’t really give a damn if you want to go from looking like a late Marlon Brando to the next Men’s Health cover model.

Just like I don’t care to read about 13,957,384 different women that seem to think that all they have to do is fit back into that little black number and bam, they’re Figure Contest material.

I realize it’s a hopeless expectation to ask that people stop with the mundane cries for emotional support; all I hope is that less people feel the urge to start a resolution log every New Year, or Saturday night visit to IHOP.

Everybody’s profile has a “blog” function. Not enough people use them.

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I just dumped a massive log. Must have been all the eggs.

[quote]Contrl wrote:
I realize it’s a hopeless expectation to ask that people stop with the mundane cries for emotional support; all I hope is that less people feel the urge to start a resolution log every New Year, or Saturday night visit to IHOP.[/quote]

The internet is a substitute for real emotional intimacy and lasting social or familial bonds. It is only natural.

I just started a WS4SB log. So what?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I just dumped a massive log. Must have been all the eggs.[/quote]

Thanks for NOT posting it.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Everybody’s profile has a “blog” function. Not enough people use them.[/quote]

People don’t check other people’s blog section regularly. Logs are used to garner support and a feeling of community for those who don’t have that support at home or from their friends. I think it’s a great way to share ideas and knowledge as well.

Is it not possible to create a ‘Log’ forum?

[quote]Contrl wrote:

Just like I don’t care to read about 13,957,384 different women that seem to think that all they have to do is fit back into that little black number and bam, they’re Figure Contest material.

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Yeah, like you read Playboy for the articles.

Seriously, go into the Powerful Women’s forum and see the videos these women post, and the weight they are moving. This is what is motivating to me.

[quote]Mys7icaL 0n3 wrote:
Is it not possible to create a ‘Log’ forum?[/quote]

That’s ridiculous. That is exactly why we have a FREE blog area on this site.

I agree, making a log thread is dumb. We get it, everyone likes attention, but if you have a personal blog and no one is reading it, maybe you just aren’t that interesting?

Riiiiight… let’s make sure we stop using an online discussion forum to help people talk about training and get advice about their workouts on a day-to-day basis. Cuz that’d be… bad?

One of the most important factors in achieving success, especially with beginners, is a sense of “team” or community. It’s one of the cornerstones of Weight Watchers, for example, and it’s why they get a majority of their results. Martial arts classes are another example. Private lessons with the Sensei are great, but if you never attend a class with a half-dozen other people, you’re simply missing out.

With huge threads like the Anabolic Diet, the Brotherhood of Iron, the Westside Training thread, various Velocity Diet Support threads, not to mention the number of logs in the Steroids forum, it’s obvious that some people prefer (or need) to communicate with like-minded souls online, especially if they train solo in the real world.

[quote]Contrl wrote:
Why does everyone feel the innate urge to start a log about the most trivial crap imaginable?[/quote]

[rhetorical question] Who gets to decide what’s “trivial”? [/rhetorical question]

Someone trying to reach a goal is someone trying to reach a goal. It’s kinda a dick move to try to decide what’s a “worthy” goal. Live, let live, all that jazz.

[quote]nephorm wrote:
Contrl wrote:
I realize it’s a hopeless expectation to ask that people stop with the mundane cries for emotional support; all I hope is that less people feel the urge to start a resolution log every New Year, or Saturday night visit to IHOP.

The internet is a substitute for real emotional intimacy and lasting social or familial bonds. It is only natural.[/quote]

Let me correct myself, because of was thinking of the “blog” phenomenon in general and not the “log” trend on this particular forum.

I see no problem with people posting their logs, especially if they confine it to one thread. Something that I noticed from the physique clinic was when Chris Shugart mentioned “holes” in a diet or exercise program; things that a person would do that he doesn’t even think about as being potentially problematic, but once they are pointed out, make a difference.

Logs open up a greater probability that such things will be found out. A casual comment can lead a more experienced poster to question how the logger is or isn’t doing a certain thing, and the logger can then make improvements.

Not to mention the fact that people really do come here for a sense of camaraderie that they perhaps could not get elsewhere. I don’t read many of the logs people post. I’ve read some, especially when I thought I might be able to learn something. But the ones I don’t read are inoffensive to me precisely because it takes so little of my time to ignore them on the thread listing.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I just dumped a massive log. Must have been all the eggs.[/quote]

By the way, it was far from trivial.

Is it really that difficult not to click on a forum topic you have no interest in reading?

[quote]christine wrote:
Is it really that difficult not to click on a forum topic you have no interest in reading?[/quote]

Did you have an interest in reading this one?

I really want to know. It isn’t like the title was ambiguous.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
christine wrote:
Is it really that difficult not to click on a forum topic you have no interest in reading?

Did you have an interest in reading this one?

I really want to know. It isn’t like the title was ambiguous.[/quote]

I’m with Cristine. I very rarely read the log posts but I knew it would be fun to read about all of you guys whining about them.

I was right.

Seriously, how much of your precious time is lost in the seconds it takes you to click a link and then decide it doesn’t interest you? If you don’t like the log posts, don’t read them (HINT: they tend to have the word “LOG” in the title). Others, however, DO like them, so let them. You might as well just deal with it since you don’t have the power to censor anyone here. Fortunately.

[quote]Kruiser wrote:
Professor X wrote:
christine wrote:
Is it really that difficult not to click on a forum topic you have no interest in reading?

Did you have an interest in reading this one?

I really want to know. It isn’t like the title was ambiguous.

I’m with Cristine. I very rarely read the log posts but I knew it would be fun to read about all of you guys whining about them.

I was right.

Seriously, how much of your precious time is lost in the seconds it takes you to click a link and then decide it doesn’t interest you? If you don’t like the log posts, don’t read them (HINT: they tend to have the word “LOG” in the title). Others, however, DO like them, so let them. You might as well just deal with it since you don’t have the power to censor anyone here. Fortunately.

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I don’t read them. I just think it is hilarious that we have a board (the only one I know of) that offers a FREE personal blog area…that no one uses to instead post “log threads” in the main forum.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
christine wrote:
Is it really that difficult not to click on a forum topic you have no interest in reading?

Did you have an interest in reading this one?

I really want to know. It isn’t like the title was ambiguous.[/quote]

Since you really want to know, yes, I do have an interest in reading this thread. I get a kick of the responses to threads such as these.

I find log threads dull; therefore, I do not read them. Never has it crossed my mind to complain about them though.

I find blogs dull as well and wouldn’t read those either.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Kruiser wrote:
Professor X wrote:
christine wrote:
Is it really that difficult not to click on a forum topic you have no interest in reading?

Did you have an interest in reading this one?

I really want to know. It isn’t like the title was ambiguous.

I’m with Cristine. I very rarely read the log posts but I knew it would be fun to read about all of you guys whining about them.

I was right.

Seriously, how much of your precious time is lost in the seconds it takes you to click a link and then decide it doesn’t interest you? If you don’t like the log posts, don’t read them (HINT: they tend to have the word “LOG” in the title). Others, however, DO like them, so let them. You might as well just deal with it since you don’t have the power to censor anyone here. Fortunately.

I don’t read them. I just think it is hilarious that we have a board (the only one I know of) that offers a FREE personal blog area…that no one uses to instead post “log threads” in the main forum.
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Good point. I’d post about it in my personal blog but then no one would ever read it. 8^(

Obviously, a lot of log posts are just to garner some attention but so is MySpaced, Fiendster, etc. Come to think of it, that’s about all the internet is good for… except for porno!