[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]Mr. Chen wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Are you saying that you are practical…because you are not logical?[/quote]
EDITED:
No, I am saying logic has it’s limits. Do you not believe this?
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I could be wrong, but no I don’t believe this. Let’s look at some of the facts.
Well, first I want to make a distinction between limits and rules or characteristics. A limit is something that stops something from becoming greater or lesser. A rule or characteristic is something that allows for something to become its lesser or greater in its very being. Example, God is good. God is so good that he is infinitely perfect in obedience to his own Divine Law. He can absolutely not do evil, not because he is not capable of doing it (in he doesn’t have the faculties), but he is unable to do it because of his characteristic or virtue of being Good. To explain the example before, it is difference between a Marine being capable of murdering someone and being unable to murder someone because they are virtuous.
An example of being limited, is most obvious. When you drive, you may have a governor on your car that limits you to only going 95 and not 96 mph. Weird example, but that is all I can think of.
So, further…if something is infinite, it cannot, by definition, be limited. Jesus being logic or reason itself (Tirib’s words) and being said so in the most Holy Bible in John 1, Jesus is Logos or translated as Word, logic, or reason. Logic being the science and art which directs the act of the reason, by which a man in the exercise of his reason is enabled to proceed without error, confusion, or unnecessary difficulty into truth. Jesus also being truth, this makes perfect sense.
And, to my point. Jesus is infinite. That means if he is logic, logic is infinite, reason is infinite. But, why would logic need to be infinite?
Well, because Jesus is something with reason and logic, he is truth. Infinite truth.
So, no.
I believe that mysteries are beyond logic in the degree that the human mind is not powerful (such as the angel’s minds are so powerful that they understand these truths not by syllogism but by intuition instead of inference) enough to understand the mystery. However, just because man’s mind is so weak that he is not able to reason such mysteries, does not mean the mystery is outside of logic. Or, in case of others the mystery never happened.
It is as Tirib says, just because we’re five years old and we can’t reach the cereal box on top of the fridge, doesn’t mean it is outside the possibility of reaching the cereal box because our father can and does reach it every morning. And, that doesn’t mean that we don’t stop trying to reach the box, either. With faith we can move mountains after all. Understanding our Father more deeply has never been a sin.
Anyway, regards.
BC[/quote]
Ah, you’ve been missed…