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Yup, MD’s can dispense all the nutritional information they want, whether they are right or wrong and regardless of their level of knowledge. And there will always be well-meaning people who follow their recommendations blindly. “Well he’s a doctor” they’ll say, even as they see their health failing. [/quote]
So is Dr. Kevorkian, and Michael Jackson’s doctor.
The eggs and high cholesterol myth was debunked at least 12 years ago. It was started as a lobbying effort by the wheat famers’ council to get people to eat more breakfast cereals, FFS. Next thing you know people are going to believe Chik Fill-A’s ads with cows telling people to eat more chicken are authoritative.[/quote]
The article isn’t about eggs and high cholesterol. It even says in it that eating lots of eggs barely does anything to your cholesterol levels. But that doesn’t change the fact that eating eggs isn’t too good for your body. That also doesn’t mean if you eat eggs you will have a heart attack, but it does have a negative impact on your body.[/quote]
Makes total sense that something that has been around for millions of years and sustained life for numerous animals would be poisonous for us humans, get outta here with your bad info
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Things don’t need to make sense from an evolutionary standpoint to be a physiological fact.
Just read the article and then we can discuss their findings. Perhaps we may come to a mutual understanding.[/quote]
Which “physiological fact” are you referencing in particular?
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Perhaps that nutrient wise one of the healthiest foods on the planet… oh wait, that would be why they are good for you[/quote]
There is no question that there are many beneficial nutrients in eggs. But does that mean there cannot be something bad in there as well?[/quote]
Sure there could be. What is it? This radical vegan MD that put out the video claims eggs are bad for you because they “increase inflammation” in endothelial tissue. Which substances? The fatty acids in a typical egg yolk are:
Unsaturates:
Oleic (yes, the olive oil fatty acid) 47%
linoleic 16%
palmitoleic 5%
linolenic (omega 3) 2%
saturates:
palmitic 23%
stearic 4%
myristic 1%
In fact, here is what is in an egg yolk:
Chicken egg, yolk, raw, fresh
Nutritional value per 100 g (3.5 oz)
Energy 1,325 kJ (317 kcal)
Carbohydrates 3.59 g
Fat 26.54 g
Protein 15.86 g
- Tryptophan 0.177 g
- Threonine 0.687 g
- Isoleucine 0.866 g
- Leucine 1.399 g
- Lysine 1.217 g
- Methionine 0.378 g
- Cystine 0.264 g
- Phenylalanine 0.681 g
- Tyrosine 0.678 g
- Valine 0.949 g
- Arginine 1.099 g
- Histidine 0.416 g
- Alanine 0.836 g
- Aspartic acid 1.550 g
- Glutamic acid 1.970 g
- Glycine 0.488 g
- Proline 0.646 g
- Serine 1.326 g
Water 52.31 g
Vitamin A equiv. 381 �??�?�¼g (48%)
Thiamine (vit. B1) 0.176 mg (15%)
Riboflavin (vit. B2) 0.528 mg (44%)
Pantothenic acid (B5) 2.990 mg (60%)
Folate (vit. B9) 146 �??�?�¼g (37%)
Calcium 129 mg (13%)
Iron 2.73 mg (21%)
Magnesium 5 mg (1%)
Phosphorus 390 mg (56%)
Potassium 109 mg (2%)
Zinc 2.30 mg (24%)
Choline 682.3 mg
Cholesterol 234 mg
One large egg contains 17 grams of yolk.
Lecithin
Lutein
zeaxanthins
carotenoids
I’m not seeing anything that would remotely promote inflammation, like an oxidized polyunsaturate.
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We have to agree to disagree here. I believe cholesterol is the most concerning here.
Dietary cholesterol is packaged into lipoproteins and secreted into the systemic circulation were their uptake through conventional pathways is dependant on proper lipolysis and apolipoprotein transfer. Lipoproteins with abnormal composition (increased cholesterol for instance) have an increased plasma residency time and form abnormal (surprise) remnants.
Endothelial cells have a greater involvement in lipid metabolism than is generally thought of. Depending on the endothelial phenotype (there are many different ones), the remnant lipoproteins are taken up and sent down several pathways. One of these pathways breaks the lipoprotein apart and can overload the cell with cholesterol. Other pathways involve an exagerated exposure to endogenously produced reactive oxygen species and thereby producing oxidised lipids.
Nonetheless, a unified mechanism that explains all observations still eludes us. Unfortunately I cannot give you a better answer than that. I will say though that we routinely use cholesterol feeding in rodents to induce endothelial dysfunction.
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Dietary cholesterol is packaged into chylomicrons, not lipoproteins but your goofy, made-up diatribe would probably fool most everyone that isn’t trained in biochemistry. You chose the wrong guy to try to snow on this stuff. You and I both know everything you just wrote is mumbo jumbo bullshit without a shred of science behind it. Good job stringing together “oxidised (sp), lipoprotein, and reactive oxygen species” though. The next step for you is looking up what each term means and what role they play in physiology.
There are some funny goobers on this site.[/quote]
Chylomicron is a lipoprotein particle…
Pseudo-science on t nation is entertaining!