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EDT for Functional Strength

I wanna use EDT to build functional strength With body weight excerises. Mainly because I’m going to Iraq in a few weeks so I really don’t know what kind of excercise equipment I’m gonna have access too. Also if you know of any books that could point me in the right direction that would be great too. Thanks alot,

              Damon

I believe Charles Staley has written a book or 2 on EDT. Please forgive me I can’t provide the link but I’m sure if you looked hard enough you’d find it.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
I believe Charles Staley has written a book or 2 on EDT. Please forgive me I can’t provide the link but I’m sure if you looked hard enough you’d find it. [/quote]

I have one of them, It doesn’t talk about functional strength. Do you know if ANY of his books talk about it???

Thanks for your service. Be carefull in Iraq and good luck with the lifting. I really respect you guys.

Really any EDT or training for the most part will raise your funtional ability.

But as for something of CS’s that is aimed at functional training you might want to get his book " Secrets of Combat Fitness" It is training for combat athletes.

Id say thats functional.

Good book nice over veiw of EDT and other methods of CS

Hope that helps,

Phill

Not a problem Magyar. Just make sure THIS country is still in one piece when I get back.

Phil thanks for the info on the book I’ll look into it. It’s funny I know I’ve heard of the Combat Fitness Book but I didn’t think of looking into it. DUH!!!

If you want some good exercises for body weight functional strenth go find all John Davies articles here and you find a few articles on it. He is the man when it comes to functional and bodyweight. Also find the renegade training website…john Davies company.

Jawara,

I am guessing that you are in the 101st, so are you 11B? If you are and you are in a BN sized FOB, what you get/have will be up to the previous unit and your Sergeant’s Major. In my FOB, we had four squat racks, three benches, a dip station, a climbing rope (our weight room was a gym that was being used as our laundry) and weight. If you are combat arms (meaning, actually have a job to do over there), I think you’ll find that the primary advisary to training success will be lack of time/energy, due to excessive tasking (NO!!! We do not need more troops, we can just give the existing troops more area and larger populations to control ;)). Good luck, and make sure, if you are combat arms, to buy a good set of knee pads (the issue ones keep falling down) and a pair or three of Mechanix brand gloves, they are a life saver in the summer.

[quote]beta wrote:
Jawara,

I am guessing that you are in the 101st, so are you 11B? If you are and you are in a BN sized FOB, what you get/have will be up to the previous unit and your Sergeant’s Major. In my FOB, we had four squat racks, three benches, a dip station, a climbing rope (our weight room was a gym that was being used as our laundry) and weight. If you are combat arms (meaning, actually have a job to do over there), I think you’ll find that the primary advisary to training success will be lack of time/energy, due to excessive tasking (NO!!! We do not need more troops, we can just give the existing troops more area and larger populations to control ;)). Good luck, and make sure, if you are combat arms, to buy a good set of knee pads (the issue ones keep falling down) and a pair or three of Mechanix brand gloves, they are a life saver in the summer.[/quote]

Yeah I am in 101 st but I’m a 13F(fister). Our CO and Sergeant Major are pretty hardcore on PT (If you don’t have a 280 PT score your considered a shit bag) so we should get some decent equipment. I’ll look into the gloves. Thanks

jawara- you don’t have a pm turned on so please pm me your email address so I can send something to you-Julianne

Thanks!!! I really appreciate it.

You are welcome!! Please let us know what you think-Julianne

Just make sure you use functional lifts such as cleans deadlifts stuff like that, that will hit your whole body.

is there such a thing a non-functional strength?

[quote]DPH wrote:
is there such a thing a non-functional strength?[/quote]

I wonder this myself. How functional does doing 100 bodyweight squats become when you are trying to pick up a 200 lb man? The functionality of every kind of strength is determiend by the circumstacnes.

[quote]DPH wrote:
is there such a thing a non-functional strength?[/quote]

I suppose that the strength gained from using machines would, to a point, be “non-functional.”

Poliquin stated in I believe it was his first “return to T-Nation” article that he was working with the Army on developing a new fitness test. I would be very interested to see what this involved. For military purposes, there is nothing wrong with gaining strength-endurance from multiple reps of bodyweight stuff. However, at some point the “strength” becomes more “endurance” and you reach a limit of usefulness. Seems that the military should test a more useful combination of strength and endurance that would be more applicable to the battlefield, as opposed to endless reps of push ups and sit ups.

Jawara - stay safe, and thank you for your service.

[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I suppose that the strength gained from using machines would, to a point, be “non-functional.”
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why?

what is the definition of non-functional?

I know that people can gain non-functional mass (fat), but what specifically is a non-functional strength gain?

ex: I use a grip machine to improve my grip…are the strength gains I get from the grip machine somehow non-functional?

lol @ a grip machine. If you bothered to subscribe to Matt Furey’s inner circle, (a snitch at just $500 per quarter - no excuses) you would know that the only way to develop functional strength is via hindu push ups and bodyweight squats. Before I became a disciple of Matt I used to lift heavy weights - I was SUCH a loser. Sure I benched 500lbs and squatted 650, but did I have the grizzly-bear strength to wrestle lions and swing from tree’s? (a must-have skill living in a big city in England, btw) Did I buggery…

ps that wasn’t intended as a dig at the original poster - good luck in Iraq…

I would say ‘functional strength’ is the manner in which strength can be applied outside of training. Naturally, that could mean something different for every single individual or sport. I’d wager that i.e. the form of strength developed doing leg extensions wouldn’t show a great carry over to many sports or to performing manual labour. Anyway, I agree that this whole discussion about functionality tends to become a can of worms and often results in training fads.

Jawara, I’d go to Crossfit, and check out their exercise selection.

I regularly train bodyweight-only, with EDT, focusing on exercises like handstand pushups, one-arm chins, one-leg squats, hanging pikes, burpees, mountain climbers, planches, Maxercists, etc …

Be sure to check out anything by Christopher Sommer, the man is a genious and always willing to help.