rush7…yeah, I noticed the label deal also. Seems like a big scam to me–the websites don’t seem all that reputable anyhow and I would never order from any of them. The Ecdysten was one of the products I was particularly interested in. I would be very interested in hearing your progress. Also, what’s your dosage schedule going to look like? I guess I shouldn’t expect a reply anytime soon, huh bud, given that you’ll be on the porch for the next couple days:-) I’m still curious as to the difference in dosages in the various products (Syntrabol). A new thread was posted and the guys seemed to be getting some very nice results. I think I’ll be giving this bad-boy a whirl in the near future.