yeah, this seems to be a bit more expensive than regular zma, but is pretty cheap considering you get the ecdysterones…i may try it if i can ever get up the $$$ to do so. it looks as if i am going to be unemployed toward the end of the month, so i may not have that luxury. i guess the upside is i’ll have more time to workout/sleep/eat/get bigger! thanks for the hookup on the website, Randy.