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East Timor Massacre Remembered


#1

U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago


Did Public Television Commit Self-Censorship to Appease Billionaire Funder David Koch?
#2

Dunno, who supplies them with humanitarian aide and security when they otherwise try ethnic cleansing?


#3

“Release the World Engine!”


#4

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Dunno, who supplies them with humanitarian aide and security when they otherwise try ethnic cleansing? [/quote]

What exactly do you mean?


#5

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]

Post-modern tripe such as this reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the role America has played as the preeminent global power since the end of WWII. Ignorance of history alone doesn’t explain the dumbfounding suspense of logic necessary to give this story any amount of credence. I suppose that you believe that without American weaponry they would have been both unwilling and unable to carry out such an atrocity?


#6

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]
The ones who are unable to move here hate this country. It’s a coping mechanism to keep them from hating their own countries.


#7

The realnewz again. I am shocked!!!


#8

[quote]Revanchist wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]

Post-modern tripe such as this reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the role America has played as the preeminent global power since the end of WWII. Ignorance of history alone doesn’t explain the dumbfounding suspense of logic necessary to give this story any amount of credence. I suppose that you believe that without American weaponry they would have been both unwilling and unable to carry out such an atrocity? [/quote]

What difference does it make if they could have carried out these atrocities without American arms? Does that mean we say fuck it and do it anyway?


#9

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]
The ones who are unable to move here hate this country. It’s a coping mechanism to keep them from hating their own countries. [/quote]

No it is the ones American military indiscriminately kills who hate this country. If China murdered U.S. citizens would they not deserve the backlash of American citizens?


#10

Exactly what the hell does this have to do with health care, big pharma, banks or any of your usual bullshit?

Lets just settle this thread now- Europe is smarter and more socially aware than us stupid Americans.

/endthread.


#11

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]
The ones who are unable to move here hate this country. It’s a coping mechanism to keep them from hating their own countries. [/quote]

No it is the ones American military indiscriminately kills who hate this country. If China murdered U.S. citizens would they not deserve the backlash of American citizens?
[/quote]
The ones who are killed are dead so they don’t hate anyone anymore.


#12

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]
The ones who are unable to move here hate this country. It’s a coping mechanism to keep them from hating their own countries. [/quote]

No it is the ones American military indiscriminately kills who hate this country. If China murdered U.S. citizens would they not deserve the backlash of American citizens?
[/quote]
The ones who are killed are dead so they don’t hate anyone anymore. [/quote]

But their families do…


#13

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#14

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Dunno, who supplies them with humanitarian aide and security when they otherwise try ethnic cleansing? [/quote]

What exactly do you mean?
[/quote]

I’ve been deployed and have been part of humanitarian missions back in 99-02 conducted in E. Timor via alliance with Aus. Heinous shit was going on in 99, ethnic cleansing, women mutilated and dead via broomstick, etc… Who was it that helped these people when all was said and done? The U.S. and Australia. Doesn’t make things right, as we did set things up to get uglier before we stepped in to fix things over there.


#15

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]

Interesting that the Australians went in and saved their asses, scared the pro-Indonesian militias off, provided medical aid and oversaw serious elections. Bastards!


#16

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Exactly what the hell does this have to do with health care, big pharma, banks or any of your usual bullshit?

Lets just settle this thread now- Europe is smarter and more socially aware than us stupid Americans.

/endthread.
[/quote]
Expanding horizons my friend.


#17

[quote]Severiano wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Severiano wrote:
Dunno, who supplies them with humanitarian aide and security when they otherwise try ethnic cleansing? [/quote]

What exactly do you mean?
[/quote]

I’ve been deployed and have been part of humanitarian missions back in 99-02 conducted in E. Timor via alliance with Aus. Heinous shit was going on in 99, ethnic cleansing, women mutilated and dead via broomstick, etc… Who was it that helped these people when all was said and done? The U.S. and Australia. Doesn’t make things right, as we did set things up to get uglier before we stepped in to fix things over there. [/quote]
One has to question why we backed their military with the sale of weaponry when we knew they were murdering the East Timorese.


#18

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]

Interesting that the Australians went in and saved their asses, scared the pro-Indonesian militias off, provided medical aid and oversaw serious elections. Bastards![/quote]
What does this have to do with U.S. arms sales to the Indonesians?


#19

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
U.S.-Armed Indonesian Troops Kill 270 Timorese 20 Years Ago

Bravo U.S. Is it any wonder why most of the world population hates this country?

http://therealnews.com/t2/component/hwdvideoshare/viewvideo/72297/best-of-the-web/east-timor-massacre-remembered-us-armed-indonesian-troops-kill-270-timorese-20-years-ago[/quote]

You have posted crap like this many times for the past several years.

Bravo Zep. Is it any wonder why most of the T-Nation thinks you’re a dolt?

PS: I wasn’t aware that popularity among the people of other countries is a valid US goal to be prioritized.

PPS: Only 270?[/quote]

So even though the U.S. isn’t wanted by the population it gives them the moral authority to do what they want?


#20

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Exactly what the hell does this have to do with health care, big pharma, banks or any of your usual bullshit?

Lets just settle this thread now- Europe is smarter and more socially aware than us stupid Americans.

/endthread.
[/quote]
Expanding horizons my friend.[/quote]

Sometimes it is a good idea to play to your strengths.