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Early 30s - Bloodwork?

Early 30s, been lifting seriously since high school. Looking to lean down and then run 400-500 Test e for 12 weeks and a newb. The best practice, at least as described here, is to stay on top of your blood work, which makes perfect sense, and use that to to determine use of AIs/HCG. Problem is that my doc is very against my plan and north of the border it’s harder to get blood work than you might think. Is this a non starter? is there a general consensus on a safe method without blood work? Sorry to ask questions that have likely been answered before.


If you cant get independent labs done like we can here in the states, I’d let your Dr know you plan to move forward with or without him but that youd prefer him to assist you in the monitoring of your health and if he isnt willing to assist in said monitoring, youll need to find a Dr who will.

It’s really ridiculous how little control over testing and health markers we have regarding our bodies. Worst case, a test hurts nothing except our wallets slightly.

Maybe someone else has more info on best practices in Canada.

You can skip testing TT and FT as these will be high and the numbers are not actionable. Labs might simply show >number that is also useless.

Testing E2 is very important and blood work that includes RBC and hematocrit to detect if blood getting too thick. Do not test LH/FSH as these -->zero.

Note that Vit-D is very important as Vit-D25 is a very important hormone. Skip testing, take 5,000iu per day unless getting a lot of sun exposure at the time. Thyroid is very important to your metabolic rate and energy levels, see below to eval via oral body temperatures and you can skip labs if good.

TRT forum info is of use. Also see stickies in the sticky welcome thread.

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Evaluate your overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Thyroid hormone fT3 is what gets the job done and it regulates mitochondrial activity, the source of ATP which is the universal currency of cellular energy. This is part of the body’s temperature control loop. This can get messed up if you are iodine deficient. In many countries, you need to be using iodized salt. Other countries add iodine to dairy or bread.

KSman is simply a regular member on this site. Nothing more other than highly active.

I can be a bit abrupt in my replies and recommendations. I have a lot of ground to cover as this forum has become much more active in the last two years. I can’t follow threads that go deep over time. You need to respond to all of my points and requests as soon as possible before you fall off of my radar. The worse problems are guys who ignore issues re thyroid, body temperatures, history of iodized salt. Please do not piss people off saying that lab results are normal, we need lab number and ranges.

The value that you get out of this process and forum depends on your effort and performance. The bulk of your learning is reading/studying the suggested stickies.