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Dumbed Down Version of Bill Roberts Finaplix Conversion?

I have read Bill Roberts posts on converting fina a few times over the past couple of days but apparently I need a version specifically designed for retards because I’m still not getting it all. Could someone please provide me with a link or an explanation I can completely understand?

Here is how I did it, from memory, but I think it is correct. This is for fina, not anything with estrogen in it.

  1. crush / grind 2g of fina pellets as fine as possible

  2. put in a stoppered bottle or something similar

  3. add about 48-49 ml of wesson (or other) oil

  4. shake or stir well, let sit for a day or two, repeat several times

  5. let it sit for awhile (several days) after the last time it is shaken so that all sediment is out of the oil

  6. get a big 50 - 100 ml syringe and draw as much oil as you can into the needle without disturbing the sediment

  7. turn the big syringe upside down (this help to not clog the filter), attach a whatmans or similar filter and inject into sterile vials

  8. it helps to place a separate long needle into the vial to vent air

This should give you something like 50ml of 40mg/ml tren ace

look up basskilleronline and read the conversions there. there are step by step instructions with pictures

Well I re-read the post on making the tren from fina with just the oil and may have answered some of my own questions. Apparently the fina will not dissolve to make a concentration that’s 100mg/ml. Or at least it wouldn’t when making test p from syno. So I assume the same is true for the fina. And as for my comments about not using the baking methods on basskiller I went on to read other methods besides the Crystal method that did not require baking. But don’t let that stop anyone from offering more advice. One thing I’m still confused on is the possible need for caber while on tren.

It seems that most believe it to be necessary to have on hand. But Bill says that it is not needed for tren because tren doesn’t effect prolactin and if you get gyno it’s not from the tren. I know its probably better to be safe then sorry but I would just like to know. Any thoughts?

[quote]ins8ibl wrote:
Here is how I did it, from memory, but I think it is correct. This is for fina, not anything with estrogen in it.

  1. crush / grind 2g of fina pellets as fine as possible

  2. put in a stoppered bottle or something similar

  3. add about 48-49 ml of wesson (or other) oil

  4. shake or stir well, let sit for a day or two, repeat several times

  5. let it sit for awhile (several days) after the last time it is shaken so that all sediment is out of the oil

  6. get a big 50 - 100 ml syringe and draw as much oil as you can into the needle without disturbing the sediment

  7. turn the big syringe upside down (this help to not clog the filter), attach a whatmans or similar filter and inject into sterile vials

  8. it helps to place a separate long needle into the vial to vent air

This should give you something like 50ml of 40mg/ml tren ace

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I tried this but with double the oil and fina. its been a week and I have a cloudy or milky layer that has settled on top of the layer of sediment. I made a new thread about it but haven’t got a response yet. any clue what it may be or is that normal?

It may be crashing. Try adding another 20ml of oil.

4000mg/80ml = 50mg/ml (this is what you have)
4000mg/100ml = 40mg/ml (this is what you need)

After re-mixing well, let it sit for several days.

ok. I will try that. I just really hoped that was not the case. I really didn’t want to add anymore volume to my injections since im going to have to pin everyday. ill let you know how it turns out.

well I added the 20ml of oil and the milky layer is still in there. I guess im just going to warm it then filter it and hope for the best.

I will let it sit another day or two first.