Dropped HCG and Added Lupron, Increased LH. Get Off Test?

Been on trt for years. Always tried to get off with 10 restarts (scaly pct, etc). Got on trt because TT was 150-200 secondary to a vericocele which I got fixed but had for years.

2 weeks ago I dropped my hcg and kept my trt test at 100mg a week. Added lupron to the regimen at 40mcg every 3 days and my LH just a few days ago rose to .4 (it was always unmeasurable). Normal range is over 1.5.
Any hope I can get off trt and maintain on lupron? I do feel tired

Have you tried a restart since you’re varicocele operation? What was the nature of the previously failed attempts. Did your LH/FSH increase while using SERMs?

Vericocele repair was 10 years ago, restarts have been after. Did scaly pct and many attempts with clomid and nolva. LH was always zero

One time I was off everything for over 4 months and my TT was 154… maybe 8 years ago

Likely never produced enough gonadotropin then? Ever had pituitary MRI or other root cause investigations?

My lh right before trt was 4, so I think the vericocele affected the testicles. Several brain mri are normal

The testes are at the end of the chain you should still produce LH with damaged balls, whether they respond to the signal or not is another story

Was HCG working for you out of interest? Currently attempting a restart and interested in your story as you’ve obviously got a lot of experience with restarts.

What’s Lupron? First I’m hearing of it

Leuprolide is used to treat advanced prostate cancer in men.

Status: Discontinued

Drug Class: Antineoplastic - LHRH (GnRH) Agonist Analog Pituitary Suppressants · LHRH (GnRH) Agonist Analog Pit Suppres - Central Precocious Puberty · LHRH (GnRH) Agonist Analog Pituitary Suppressants

Availability: Prescription Required

Pregnancy: Do not use. This medication may be harmful to an unborn child.

Lactation: Consult a doctor before using

Alcohol: Limit intake while taking this medication

Driving: May cause drowsiness or dizziness. Use caution

Manufacturer: ABBVIE US LLC

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Yes hcg was working for me but hated that it increased my estrogen so then I needed an AI etc and just wished I was natural so I wouldn’t need all these exogenous compounds.
Honestly, felt my best on test 150 a week plus 300 iu hcg every 3 days…

Gnrh agonist.
Used to increase LH fsh, if used super high doses it suppresses LH and FSH hence use in prostate cancer to lower testosterone

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I had the same issues with HCG. Can’t seem to control e2 even with AI and I don’t want to run test only and have tiny balls.

HCG monotherapy might be an option for you if you can tolerate it and are secondary. My hormone markers were all spot on with 500IU EOD and I felt good.

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I did hcg mono and felt to tired.

I honestly felt like Superman on 300 test but I know it’s not healthy.

Best of luck man. As for leuprolide, I have no idea sorry, maybe someone more knowledgeable will have input.

I’d hypothesise based in the info you’ve given that maybe there’s some anomaly with your receptors shutting your pituitary off.
Maybe with the higher dose of Test there were enough androgens to resolve symptoms. Very loose hypothesis which is completely unsupported.

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