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Dr Wants to Add Nolvadex to My TRT Protocol

I will be looking at m’y igf-1 numbers in my next blood work. The more I read the more I lurn.


That is not the point at all. Years ago, law enforcement started making arrests and shutting down web sites that appeared to be ‘market places’ where sources for gear were exchanged. So specific sites should not be posted. Nothing to do with any sponsors. There are no sponsors here. This site is part of and funded by the Biotest product line. You lack the long view of those developments. You can find other sites, which you seem very aware of, that do not share these concerns. I am not in any way part of the management of this site or Biotest, just very active in this forum.

IGF-1=394 is exceptionally high for 1iu hGH per day.
IGF-1 levels depend on dose and also on how effective the liver is at IGF-1 production.

hCG does not add to existing GH as dosing shuts down existing production.

If you are making 0.55iu per days and dose 1.0iu, you only get 0.45iu of benefit.

I have found that SC injections deliver a lot more IGF-1 than IM injections. SC is absorbed slower than IM and I thus conclude that time under the curve is more important than peak levels as liver IGF-1 production probably is rate limited and time under the curve is the major critical factor.

IGF-1 has a longer half-life and GH very short, so IGF-1 is a better measure of GH status than GH itself. So labs for GH are quite useless in this context. Direct GH labs should be reserved for GH stimulation testing.

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I know that your post is old, and this thread is ancient. Your post thus became lost.

Please create your own thread for your “case” were we can help you there.

Also please then keep all of your “case” in that one thread so we have context to refer to over time as you make further posts.

Your Arimidex/anastrozole dose should be dosed to get near E2=22pg/ml
Changes to dose should be avoided as the half-life dictates that a dose change has a one week span. Short term dose changes are not good. Try to keep things steady so labs are a meaningful guide.

You can eval overall thyroid function via last paragraph in this post.
Thyroid issues are more complex than TRT issues.
Many have some thyroid issues that are overlooked because the ranges are stupid.

Post all current labs there with ranges: - that you have
fasting cholesterol

Please read the stickies found here: About the T Replacement Category

  • advice for new guys
  • things that damage your hormones
  • protocol for injections
  • finding a TRT doc

Evaluate your overall thyroid function by checking oral body temperatures as per the thyroid basics sticky. Thyroid hormone fT3 is what gets the job done and it regulates mitochondrial activity, the source of ATP which is the universal currency of cellular energy. This is part of the body’s temperature control loop. This can get messed up if you are iodine deficient. In many countries, you need to be using iodized salt. Other countries add iodine to dairy or bread.

I don’t have a ‘case’, I do blood twice yearly. One full and one ‘mini’, just T, E2, TSH etc. It took me a while to get E2 under control, but i have it now. I’m 76, no-one believes me. I even have to take my Birth Certificate if I go to the Pensions place. I have a 35 yr old chick that I sleep with a couple of nights every week.

I ONLY use the doc to draw blood and send it off. He can shove his pills and keep his hands off me. It isn’t in the interest of doctors or your Govt to actually CURE you. If you believe otherwise you are VERY naive indeed.

I just find it a great pity that most of these forums are unwilling to let users who are ‘in the know’ guide others and stop them from buying junk.

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Reviving a mighty old thread but just wondering if all of these combined worked somehow?

Yeah. I would love to know how you are doing? We don’t have many If any at your age in here.