idk man one monster contains 200mg ginseng per serving.
then a blend of 2500mg consisting of carnitine, glucose, caffeine,guarana, inositol, glucuronolactone, maltodextrin. PER serving.
I think there is more than 160mg caffiene per 16oz monster....
ginseng, guarana, caffiene are all stims i believe.
1 monster .vs. 400mg of 'No Doz' caffiene pills and it's not even in the same ball park imo.