Mike Roussell’s diet approach is rehashing basic principles. I hope that isn’t new to anyone, and the reason why it works is the same reason other diets work. Sort of that “many programs, same principles” things going on. I’m not bashing it, but don’t think it’s magic. I would hope anyone would use those principles peri-workout in some fashion regardless of their diet. I will also mention that prescribing set amounts of intake of BCAA, protein, etc. is dumb, as each person requires different levels of nutrients. I understand there is a maximum level of carbohydrate, protein, and volume of digestion, but he certainly isn’t addressing that here.
Second, fasting long-term is stupid. Sure it can keep you relatively lean, but it really limits the size you will hold. If you’re looking to have the Hollywood “small and shredded” look, go for it. I’m not bashing it, but just understand that it may not coordinate with your goals.
Something I’ve been doing it low-carb except for fruits and veggies, with occasional other carb sources. It certainly isn’t low-carb when you add up the totals, but it is much lower in carbs than most dietary approaches. Of course I do this because I can’t eat many carb sources anyway due to allergies.
The main ideas that any effective diet for health, performance, and body composition are: maintain nutrient levels throughout the day, keep insulin under control, consume adequate carbohydrates, proteins, and fats. Sure, these principles can be occluded from time to time for a specific purpose (say, extreme leanness, or extreme performance), but long-term these principles need to be in place for optimal alignment of each of the three areas.
I won’t get into explaining the reasons behind each of these as I’m sure they’re well understood here, but I can go into detail if anyone would like me to. Even though we understand these principles, sometimes we go with extreme ideas for something different, not necessarily because it works. If what we’re doing doesn’t work, or we aren’t really sticking to it, we try something different because different must be better, right? This is how fad diets get so popular. People go from one to next one to the next one…
Anyway, my point is it seems your approach seems a bit extreme for what you’re trying to achieve. Perhaps I’m wrong, and I’m certainly not saying you shouldn’t do it, but take a look at the big picture to make sure it is really a good idea.
Maybe I’m just in one of those moods, which could be a possibility. I just had a personal training meeting at work and some people came to “teach” us about olympic lifts. I wasted 1.5 hours of my life, and I’m probably just taking it out here.[/quote]
I agree with all your points Schwarz, it's an obvious that people want to jump on the latest. I don't necessarily put myself in that category, especially with the IF. I rather like to try things on the fringe that go against the "norm". I am not going to even try to rehash what I read concerning the scientific basis for IF that has some scientists touting it as a good diet, and it's certainly not for everyone, as no diet is. Rather, let's just say that as a fairly intelligent person, many of the things I read on it looked good enough for me to think it would be something to try, I don't necessarily enjoy, always having to have a frickin meal ready on the hour every 3 hours or so anyway, and in humanity's past this certainly wasn't the case. Who's to say that intermittent fasting while not only doable with few negatives, could even be beneficial? From what I read, it looks quite possible. Often times I have not felt hungry, and have blown off morning meals, and to my surprise would still have a good workout with just my bcaa's and some whey etc. I only have done this a few times because of the overwhelming assumption according to the bb community that this would be totally counterprocuctive. I do follow to a certain degree what most say works. But it struck me after reading further on it, and seeing many having good results.
I am starting out with this regular tkd style anyway for the record, so let's stick to that for now, until I have more knowledge on the other,(IF).
For now I'm going to do the usual, 5-6 meals, with only the pre/post wkout window for the simple and moderate gi carbs. The rest of the day, prior and post wkout, will be meats and other pro sources, with the minimul carbs found in fibrous veggies, and of course healthy fats.
So it’s basicly very similar to the AD, but tossing the idea of the weekend carb up out the window. For me I never noticed any significant “anabolic response” from the high carb weekend, only slight to moderate lethargy/decreased energy, and a slight improvement on the following 2 or 3 workouts, if any. I think it makes much more sense to have a regular input of carbs timed around the wkout, so you have a bit more energy during, and you get the insulin response and full use of the carbs post, so they really don’t have the chance of going to fat stores if done reasonably.
I just think the AD is pretty much outdated now that I’ve fucked with it, and seen how it goes. Hell look at all the different books Mauro put out, the AS for BBing, for PLing, etc, etc. It’s basicly as anyone will know, all the same fucking book, just marketed to difft. subgroups to make a buck. The BB’rs want to think they have a unique one for them, and same with the PLrs. So, there’s a drop in integrity there for me as far as my respect for Dr DiP goes.
Anyway, that's my plan, and reasoning behind it, I like to experiment and don't really give a fuck what the majority think of anything. Things have been disproved over and over many times in the progress of science. I'm not saying that the IF is the end all, but I am saying that I will check it out, and determine how My body responds to it, as it has intrigued me. So, anyway, like I said earlier, I am in agreement with you Schwarz, everything you said is true, everyone is different, the numbers calculated and so often thrown around like gospel, are not that at all. You just have to get out there, and try what you want to, try to make choices that aren't a waste of time etc. I just go against the grain frequently as you my friend know very well. LOL.
Tmoney, I would eat pretty much anything but balance it on the IF, probably still lesser carbs, mod pro, and mod fat. And not try to eat a shitload of meals, as that doesn't make sense in a small time frame, but rather bigger meals with more protein than what everyone says we can digest at a sitting...you know more of the same bullshit, like.."don't eat more than 30g's..you won't be able to digest it" etc. So probably 3-4 bigger meals.
Our ancestors were pretty lean, and they weren't sitting down after a kill thinking, "I better not eat that other drumstick, I already had enough protein". They ate and filled the belly and seemed to do well. But that's just another example, I'm no expert on anything.
Ok, that's the end of my post, hahaha, I am so tired of studying right now, I had to take a break and go off myself a tad.
thanks for the correspondance and good points as usual Schwarz, and thanks for dropping by Tmoney.
cheers gang, enjoy the rest of the weekend!